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kqv91y
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I looked at SP site on my phone it seems to work OK in chrome.
Henlow 10:07 SP Trap 6 says Best time 28.53 Last 28.44 and this confirms your selection.
However if yo go to Timeform it shows Trap 6 Last race time was 28.53 on the 29/01/2020 and its best time was 28.44 on 27/10/2019.
Looking at Crayford 11:01 SP seem to have them the correct way around however

Trap 1 23.99 24.38 24.19
Trap 2 24.05 24.44 24.25
Trap 3 24.16 24.05 24.11
Trap 4 24.1 24.56 24.33
Trap 5 24.23 24.5 24.37
Trap 6 24.24 24.49 24.37

Best Trap 3 24.11
2nd Trap 1 24.19
Difference 0.08
How do you get Trap 2?
Am I missing something?
dt888
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I also looked at the 11.01 and was wondering the same thing. Trap 2 hasn’t got the fastest average time?
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jimibt
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dt888 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:01 am
I also looked at the 11.01 and was wondering the same thing. Trap 2 hasn’t got the fastest average time?
I seem to recall archer saying that there was a bug in the sportinglife best/last times. something to do wit the fact that some of the best times and last times do not match the distance of the race in question. he now takes an average of the last 5-10 racetimes that do match the current race distance and uses that for the calculation.

at least, that's my memory of things from earlier posts :D
dt888
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Thanks. I was just going from what he said yesterday that he takes the last 5 times (over same course and distance) in which case trap 2 hasn’t got the fastest average time. But maybe he looked over a greater number of races
Archery1969
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I don't think SL data is correct in all instances.

The best accurate data i have looked at is from https://greyhoundsform.betfair.com/racingform

But i don't think its easy to scrap from that site until all the Javascript has loaded. Often what you see on the screen is not available via the page source.

On some cards the data between SL, RP and TF is totally different.
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jimibt
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dt888 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:10 am
Thanks. I was just going from what he said yesterday that he takes the last 5 times (over same course and distance) in which case trap 2 hasn’t got the fastest average time. But maybe he looked over a greater number of races
i seem to recall that it was between 5 and 10 races and if any race didn't have a runner with 5 races on the distance, then the entire race was ignored.
kqv91y
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:21 am
I don't think SL data is correct in all instances.

The best accurate data i have looked at is from https://greyhoundsform.betfair.com/racingform

But i don't think its easy to scrap from that site until all the Javascript has loaded. Often what you see on the screen is not available via the page source.

On some cards the data between SL, RP and TF is totally different.
I have a file that I used to scrape data from here before so I will adapt it and try again.
Archery1969
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kqv91y wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:29 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:21 am
I don't think SL data is correct in all instances.

The best accurate data i have looked at is from https://greyhoundsform.betfair.com/racingform

But i don't think its easy to scrap from that site until all the Javascript has loaded. Often what you see on the screen is not available via the page source.

On some cards the data between SL, RP and TF is totally different.
I have a file that I used to scrape data from here before so I will adapt it and try again.
I think they changed the site to try and prevent scraping.
Archery1969
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This one was an interesting one. T3 was fastest dog but opposed by SL, RP and TF.

But it did shorten in price before the start.... And it won the race! :lol:
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Trap 5 is opposed by SL, RP and TF but it is the fastest dog in the race.
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wearthefoxhat
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Managing a bit more consistency on the L2B no hopers. The automation initially went a bit haywire, but settled down with 26 in a row!

Lowest price no hoper was Central Park; 12.39 Trap 1 @ 2.74.

Is it scaleable? ;)

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Archery1969
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:57 pm
Managing a bit more consistency on the L2B no hopers. The automation initially went a bit haywire, but settled down with 26 in a row!

Lowest price no hoper was Central Park; 12.39 Trap 1 @ 2.74.

Is it scaleable? ;)


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:D

Scaleable ?, I dont know but i have noticed allot more BOT activity in the last few weeks!!!!!!! :o
Archery1969
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These are my BTL Trades for Wed Feb 05:
Swindon
11:19   A3   4   Westwell Delilah
11:48   A3   5   Distant Voice
13:04   A4   1   Tailteann Storm

Newcastle
11:11   A5   1   Loughgur Eddie
11:41   A6   6   Philibilly
11:56   A3   6   Ellies Playboy
12:42   A5   4   View The Beaut
13:27   A5   1   Indian Reel

Central Park
12:31   A1   3   Sues Boy

Belle Vue
14:08   A8   6   Tracys Low Low
15:07   A5   4   Michaels Advice
17:22   A6   2   Slaneyside Brigs

Monmore
14:22   A5   2   Mitchells Diva
17:54   A4   1   Brocks Snowflake
18:09   A7   6   Swift Terrific

Doncaster
19:33   B2   4   Antigua Coral
19:49   D2   6   Ardralla Gary
21:08   B5   3   Bye Bye Baby

Sunderland
19:57   HP   6   Gurtnacrehy Ava
20:44   A1   6   Connell Star
21:14   A3   3   Meadows Megan

Peterborough
19:05   A5   1   Gortilea Bonnie

These are my LTB Trades for Wed Feb 05:
Swindon
11:03   A8   5   Keeperhill Kylie
12:33   A6   6   Stover Rio
13:19   A8   5   Steeple Rd Snowy
13:33   A6   6   Ballymac Rambler

Newcastle
11:11   A5   4   Dipton Spartan
11:41   A6   1   Unlimited Speed
12:57   HP   3   Target Tweed

Central Park
12:16   D2   2   Fisher Peacock
13:31   A1   2   Cushie Be Fast
13:49   A2   4   Pascali Hawk

Romford
13:22   A3   2   Rough Belle

Belle Vue
14:08   A8   3   Delightful Dawn
14:47   A4   6   John Dory
15:27   A4   1   Barbie Queen
17:22   A6   3   Ballymac Special
17:56   A2   3   Ishealiveyet

Monmore
14:22   A5   4   Tommys Thunder
15:02   A3   1   Ryecourt Gypsy
15:59   A2   4   Outclough Vicky
16:19   A3   4   Malbay Meena
18:09   A7   1   Jayhawk Swift

Hove
15:11   D1   4   Fletchwood Sadie

Harlow
18:33   D4   4   Front Runner

Doncaster
18:44   A4   1   Nolas Bloom
19:17   A2   3   Cherokee Chief
20:21   D3   2   Glashedy Rock
21:08   B5   4   Russanda Roseann

Sunderland
18:55   HP   1   Kilcarn Molly
19:26   A2   3   Kingsmill Rickie
19:57   HP   1   Caretaker Tom
20:44   A1   2   Mancity Mick
21:14   A3   2   Glebe Capri

Peterborough
20:51   D1   1   Dizzy Rebel
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jimibt
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:02 pm
These are my BTL Trades for Wed Feb 05:
... snip
cheers archery...
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wearthefoxhat
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:02 pm

These are my LTB Trades for Wed Feb 05:
Newcastle
11:11   A5   4   Dipton Spartan
11:41   A6   1   Unlimited Speed

Central Park
13:49   A2   4   Pascali Hawk

Romford
13:22   A3   2   Rough Belle

Belle Vue
14:47   A4   6   John Dory

Monmore
15:02   A3   1   Ryecourt Gypsy
15:59   A2   4   Outclough Vicky
18:09   A7   1   Jayhawk Swift
Good Luck.

FWIW, the above ones cross match on my L2B list. (total 40 today)
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