Gambling Review White Paper update

[ShaunWhite]

Hopefully the affordability checks won't apply to horseracing.

I can't imagine Betfair would maintain a seperate account for horseracing.

[AnxiousBettor]

Hopefully the affordability checks won't apply to horseracing.

I can't imagine Betfair would maintain a seperate account for horseracing.

I'm on about sportsbooks.

[Euler]

Hopefully the affordability checks won't apply to horseracing.

I can't imagine Betfair would maintain a seperate account for horseracing.

Well there used to be a UK and Australian wallet so it can be done.

[Derek27]

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...we don't give a fuck about the safety of non-UK residents.

[ShaunWhite]

As expected, these things are a waste of time...

"Rhodes said the body’s aim was to “implement what the white paper says" "

It's just a stream of platitudes and obfuscation, again.


And although doing "nothing at all" would sound OK for most people, our situation takes a bit more explaining than a score on a credit file so it's utterly missing the issues raised by the professional gambling community. We actually need to have some 'friction' so they can actually establish that we're not just punters. There's no mention of exemptions at all.

[ShaunWhite]

Well there used to be a UK and Australian wallet so it can be done.

That's true, but if we get down to saying you can bet on a horse but not a dog then the govt really has lost the plot.

[aperson]

Can someone please give a break down of what was said? What is likely to change? I'm primarily a value bettor if that makes any difference.

You didn't miss much. I kept on thinking they were going to get into the nitty gritty of how the checks would work, but no. I got the impression they don't have a clue on the details and are just trying to get the whole thing done so they can tick it off the to do list. Personal highlight was the questions about why employment status and postcode were added in despite not being in the white paper. The GC guy just outright denied they'd added that in. It was like he didn't understand the meaning of the English language,

[AnxiousBettor]

Can someone please give a break down of what was said? What is likely to change? I'm primarily a value bettor if that makes any difference.

You didn't miss much. I kept on thinking they were going to get into the nitty gritty of how the checks would work, but no. I got the impression they don't have a clue on the details and are just trying to get the whole thing done so they can tick it off the to do list. Personal highlight was the questions about why employment status and postcode were added in despite not being in the white paper. The GC guy just outright denied they'd added that in. It was like he didn't understand the meaning of the English language,

So I could make up employment status for my clients' accounts?

[aperson]

Can someone please give a break down of what was said? What is likely to change? I'm primarily a value bettor if that makes any difference.

You didn't miss much. I kept on thinking they were going to get into the nitty gritty of how the checks would work, but no. I got the impression they don't have a clue on the details and are just trying to get the whole thing done so they can tick it off the to do list. Personal highlight was the questions about why employment status and postcode were added in despite not being in the white paper. The GC guy just outright denied they'd added that in. It was like he didn't understand the meaning of the English language,

So I could make up employment status for my clients' accounts?

Not quite what I meant but they did admit there would be no way to check yours job title was accurate if they decide to ask for it.

[ANGELS15]

The Racing Posts on today

https://www.racingpost.com/news/gamblin ... DG2t4ym4b/

Hopefully the affordability checks won't apply to horseracing.

I was reading an article in the racing post yesterday where course bookmakers were saying that bigger punters were returning to the course to place their bets as at present 'affordability' checks havn't quite filtered through to the on-course markets.

I often spend time in bookies to watch my trades and have spoken with the odd 'big' punter and they are definitely being impacted/restricted. There seems to be some kind of spend trigger where the betting shop staff have to ask questions or perform some kind of interaction with the customers.

At Ladbrokes they seem to have some kind of spend trigger with their fruit machine players where after a certain spend limit is reached the staff have to approach the customers and ask them questions like what is their name amongst other things which often provokes irritated responses from the punters.

[Sonny]

I was thinking that doing half the action on betfair and half on betdaq and then using each as source of income towards the other could be the way forward.
With a single customer view this might not work though :/

Anyone got an idea whether or not the Republic of Ireland would be a good alternative to get out of this dystopian future?

[AnxiousBettor]

I was thinking that doing half the action on betfair and half on betdaq and then using each as source of income towards the other could be the way forward.
With a single customer view this might not work though :/

Anyone got an idea whether or not the Republic of Ireland would be a good alternative to get out of this dystopian future?

Time to get some clients.

[jimibt]

I was thinking that doing half the action on betfair and half on betdaq and then using each as source of income towards the other could be the way forward.
With a single customer view this might not work though :/

Anyone got an idea whether or not the Republic of Ireland would be a good alternative to get out of this dystopian future?

Time to get some clients.

??

[AnxiousBettor]

I was thinking that doing half the action on betfair and half on betdaq and then using each as source of income towards the other could be the way forward.
With a single customer view this might not work though :/

Anyone got an idea whether or not the Republic of Ireland would be a good alternative to get out of this dystopian future?

Time to get some clients.

??

Use one of Betfair or BETDAQ in a friend's name.

[ShaunWhite]

I was thinking that doing half the action on betfair and half on betdaq and then using each as source of income towards the other could be the way forward.

If you're profitable the simple solution is to avoid depositing. They'd only count as sources of income if you've been drawing a regular wage from them anyway.

But all this will be academic if Betfair volumes don't improve so rather than chatting about it, how about everyone getting some decent numbers though.