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goat68 wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:25 pm
Trying not to be sexist, but from videos of trading conferences ive seen in the past, it's about 99% males, why would that be?
Probably because women are far more sensible and much less impulsive than men
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goat68 wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:11 pm
Difficult game this greyhound "bot fight"... very frustrating
but thinking about it it's mainly a bot game, there's 100s of bots trading against each other
I've started from the bottom and need to get to the top 10, what are my chances ?!
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the whole botting thing, but isn't your bot now only placing bets based on a model? To me, that's more like placing a bet to a schedule, not 'trading'.
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goat68 wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:25 pm
Trying not to be sexist, but from videos of trading conferences ive seen in the past, it's about 99% males, why would that be?
Do you really need to ask why there's more men at an event that's about sport, money, tech and nerdy obsession? Those events are catnip !

Chuck in self-indulgent pipedreams and voilà, a room full of male pattern baldness. :)
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goat68 wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:11 pm
I've started from the bottom and need to get to the top 10, what are my chances ?!
If you "need" the money then Squid Game would be a softer option.
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320 pages now and you're asking what your chances are of having a successful bot, and even why there are more men in the trade than women!

I spent a decade in betting shops but never question why women don't go in there because a woman never appeared so I couldn't ask her. ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:58 am
320 pages now and you're asking what your chances are of having a successful bot, and even why there are more men in the trade than women!

I spent a decade in betting shops but never question why women don't go in there because a woman never appeared so I couldn't ask her. ;)
Whenever I walk past a bookies these days there is usually visible 1 member of staff and 1 customer. I'm not talking about leafy Surrey either but Newcastle upon Tyne - I just don't know how that is economically viable.
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Emmson wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:11 am
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:58 am
320 pages now and you're asking what your chances are of having a successful bot, and even why there are more men in the trade than women!

I spent a decade in betting shops but never question why women don't go in there because a woman never appeared so I couldn't ask her. ;)
Whenever I walk past a bookies these days there is usually visible 1 member of staff and 1 customer. I'm not talking about leafy Surrey either but Newcastle upon Tyne - I just don't know how that is economically viable.
The last time I've been in a bookie was when Coral restricted me. I just had a couple hundred in the account so I popped into the local Coral to withdraw it in cash. There were two members of staff behind the counter and only one customer, but that customer was on an FOBT, so I could see where they were getting their money from. :)
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Emmson wrote:
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Whenever I walk past a bookies these days there is usually visible 1 member of staff and 1 customer. I'm not talking about leafy Surrey either but Newcastle upon Tyne - I just don't know how that is economically viable.
The shops used to be so much more than just bookmakers. Theyd be full of old fellas saving on their own heating bill, talking to mates all day, watching the free telly and having the odd 50p on.. They were a great social club for older men where if someone was missing someone would go and find out why. Then they started charging for tea, made them nonsmoking and all clinical instead of sightly dog eared and welcoming. It all sounds like jumpers for goalposts but if you ever spent days on end in the bookies back then you'll know what I mean. Tragic loss imo. What now, sat on your own at home.

If bookies want to be ecomomcally viable then stick some sofas in and make it a coffee shop/pub type vibe where its not just about betting where men feel welcome and not just like a cash machine.
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Merry 1st day of advent, i hope day 1 brought you some joy?
I was hoping for a guide on model making, got a travel bottle of shampoo!
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:14 am
Emmson wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:11 am
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Whenever I walk past a bookies these days there is usually visible 1 member of staff and 1 customer. I'm not talking about leafy Surrey either but Newcastle upon Tyne - I just don't know how that is economically viable.
The shops used to be so much more than just bookmakers. Theyd be full of old fellas saving on their own heating bill, talking to mates all day, watching the free telly and having the odd 50p on.. They were a great social club for older men where if someone was missing someone would go and find out why. Then they started charging for tea, made them nonsmoking and all clinical instead of sightly dog eared and welcoming. It all sounds like jumpers for goalposts but if you ever spent days on end in the bookies back then you'll know what I mean. Tragic loss imo. What now, sat on your own at home.

If bookies want to be ecomomcally viable then stick some sofas in and make it a coffee shop/pub type vibe where its not just about betting where men feel welcome and not just like a cash machine.
Love that post and get exactly what you mean. Lucky for me there is a independent company near me that has that same feel. The high st ones are shit now.
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:14 am
Emmson wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:11 am
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Whenever I walk past a bookies these days there is usually visible 1 member of staff and 1 customer. I'm not talking about leafy Surrey either but Newcastle upon Tyne - I just don't know how that is economically viable.
The shops used to be so much more than just bookmakers. Theyd be full of old fellas saving on their own heating bill, talking to mates all day, watching the free telly and having the odd 50p on.. They were a great social club for older men where if someone was missing someone would go and find out why. Then they started charging for tea, made them nonsmoking and all clinical instead of sightly dog eared and welcoming. It all sounds like jumpers for goalposts but if you ever spent days on end in the bookies back then you'll know what I mean. Tragic loss imo. What now, sat on your own at home.

If bookies want to be ecomomcally viable then stick some sofas in and make it a coffee shop/pub type vibe where its not just about betting where men feel welcome and not just like a cash machine.
Love that post and get exactly what you mean. Lucky for me there is a independent company near me that has that same feel. The high st ones are shit now.

There was a school of thought at one time to serve hot meals/breakfasts, utilise shop walkers, set up community events, all in an effort to improve the customer experience. The staff rebelled and preferred to sit tidy behind the counter, so the staffing union turned around and put the kibosh on it pretty sharpish.

The staff were then rewarded with single manning in shops, and flexi hours on their contracts having to cover other shops at short notice.

Since then the FOBT's has been taxed in a different way, so owning a betting shop is not an attractive propostion anymore.
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:42 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:13 am
ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:14 am

The shops used to be so much more than just bookmakers. Theyd be full of old fellas saving on their own heating bill, talking to mates all day, watching the free telly and having the odd 50p on.. They were a great social club for older men where if someone was missing someone would go and find out why. Then they started charging for tea, made them nonsmoking and all clinical instead of sightly dog eared and welcoming. It all sounds like jumpers for goalposts but if you ever spent days on end in the bookies back then you'll know what I mean. Tragic loss imo. What now, sat on your own at home.

If bookies want to be ecomomcally viable then stick some sofas in and make it a coffee shop/pub type vibe where its not just about betting where men feel welcome and not just like a cash machine.
Love that post and get exactly what you mean. Lucky for me there is a independent company near me that has that same feel. The high st ones are shit now.

There was a school of thought at one time to serve hot meals/breakfasts, utilise shop walkers, set up community events, all in an effort to improve the customer experience. The staff rebelled and preferred to sit tidy behind the counter, so the staffing union turned around and put the kibosh on it pretty sharpish.

The staff were then rewarded with single manning in shops, and flexi hours on their contracts having to cover other shops at short notice.

Since then the FOBT's has been taxed in a different way, so owning a betting shop is not an attractive propostion anymore.
Yes i agree with the machines. The £100 spin on the roulette was a big hit. But when it changed that must of been murder for them.

Like I said the local one to me is still decent. Full of old boys popping in and out. Saturdays are a good atmosphere. Even better when Harry Redknapp comes in and we can rip him!
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Kai wrote:
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goat68 wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:25 pm
Trying not to be sexist, but from videos of trading conferences ive seen in the past, it's about 99% males, why would that be?
Trying very much to be sexist here but from what I've seen in the past they think it's more fun spending money rather than making it?
:D :D :D
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goat68 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:49 am
Merry 1st day of advent, i hope day 1 brought you some joy?
I was hoping for a guide on model making, got a travel bottle of shampoo!
You get/give presents everyday in December?! I don't really 'do' Xmas or gods.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:20 pm
goat68 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:49 am
Merry 1st day of advent, i hope day 1 brought you some joy?
I was hoping for a guide on model making, got a travel bottle of shampoo!
You get/give presents everyday in December?! I don't really 'do' Xmas or gods.
I was never really into Xmas until I was about 17 and my first serious gf dressed up as Santa :D
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