Had a decent day botting yesterday, fingers crossed for today.
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spreadbetting wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:19 pmHad a decent day botting yesterday, fingers crossed for today.
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Hello guys,
First of all, thank you so much for sharing, this decided me to give another try at trading and reactivate my account.
I've been learning so much for the past 2 weeks and practicing successfully in practice mode scalping the given selection.
Today I decided to try the method with live data but it's been a disaster so far. For some reason, I can't get matched live while there was no issue in practice mode. I only get matched passed the 3min mark when there is enough volume.
What I do is always back 1 tick below the current lay price, cancel the back bet and set a new one if the lay price goes below my back bet price.
As the market isn't formed yet, I rarely get matched till the 3min mark but by then, there isn't great opportunity for laying at a shorter price... I might be doing something wrong but I assume the practice mode is maybe too optimistic. Or maybe today is just a bad day
I will keep watching the live market, seems more accurate than what BA seems to display in practice mode.
Cya & thanks again for opening this very interesting thread.
First of all, thank you so much for sharing, this decided me to give another try at trading and reactivate my account.
I've been learning so much for the past 2 weeks and practicing successfully in practice mode scalping the given selection.
Today I decided to try the method with live data but it's been a disaster so far. For some reason, I can't get matched live while there was no issue in practice mode. I only get matched passed the 3min mark when there is enough volume.
What I do is always back 1 tick below the current lay price, cancel the back bet and set a new one if the lay price goes below my back bet price.
As the market isn't formed yet, I rarely get matched till the 3min mark but by then, there isn't great opportunity for laying at a shorter price... I might be doing something wrong but I assume the practice mode is maybe too optimistic. Or maybe today is just a bad day

I will keep watching the live market, seems more accurate than what BA seems to display in practice mode.
Cya & thanks again for opening this very interesting thread.
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Nice work.spreadbetting wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:19 pmHad a decent day botting yesterday, fingers crossed for today.
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Starting to feel sorry (not), for the botters that had the greyhound market to themselves, before this thread started!
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Dont feel sorry for them. They had it very good for many years and basically offered us very poor odds and shifted the market when they wanted to.wearthefoxhat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:42 pmNice work.spreadbetting wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:19 pmHad a decent day botting yesterday, fingers crossed for today.
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Starting to feel sorry (not), for the botters that had the greyhound market to themselves, before this thread started!
Well, its not the wild west anymore. They will have to learn to adapt or get shafted.

There were several races this afternoon where bots were at play from 11 minutes out. Using Book%, Market Vol%, Selection Book% and VWAP i was able to jump in front of them but only upto a point where i knew the odds were getting too low. So i then stopped, the odds went back to some kind of normality and then they stopped at 4 minutes to go. The rules these bots use must be very simplistic but have caugnt out many over the years and when totalled up have pinched allot of $$$$$.
Time for a new dawn.

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I was one of those botterswearthefoxhat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:42 pmNice work.spreadbetting wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:19 pmHad a decent day botting yesterday, fingers crossed for today.
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Starting to feel sorry (not), for the botters that had the greyhound market to themselves, before this thread started!

Not the most exciting of days but a profit's a profit.
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Similar day today as yesterday, behind early, strong winning sequence to complete a similar profit for trial staking.
One observation is with the current formline, trial times can be deceptive. These are largely dismissed, but can help a grey adjust/readjust quickly to the track and can run well fresh on their next run. Some graders overlook this (and punters).
Example; Trap 3 Brainstorm (Ex-Irish) Only trial form.
Won 8/1 (28.00 BSP)
One observation is with the current formline, trial times can be deceptive. These are largely dismissed, but can help a grey adjust/readjust quickly to the track and can run well fresh on their next run. Some graders overlook this (and punters).
Example; Trap 3 Brainstorm (Ex-Irish) Only trial form.
Won 8/1 (28.00 BSP)
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These are my BTL Trades for Thu Feb 06:
Sunderland
11:19 A5 1 Groveshill Dubh
12:33 A4 2 Millwood Susie
13:04 HP 6 Possibly
Henlow
11:24 A11 5 Talking Lulu
11:54 A9 4 Ebony Velvet
12:39 A9 1 Millies Honour
13:39 A7 5 Slippy Messi
Perry Barr
11:41 A8 6 Bansha Scolari
11:56 A4 2 Creevy Shadow
Central Park
12:16 A3 4 Hollyoak Carlos
Sheffield
17:22 A4 1 Camp Rocky
Romford
14:32 A1 5 Tagged
15:11 A5 3 Skyline Rocky
15:29 A5 1 Slaneyside Anner
16:29 A2 2 Catherine Pearl
17:28 A7 4 Borwick Happy
17:44 A3 4 Blue Thrill Lad
18:02 A4 6 Pay The Act
Crayford
15:19 A10 3 Popular Charlie
15:39 A6 2 Chickenballxpres
15:59 A9 1 Walkofshame
16:58 A8 6 Colarhouse Leon
17:37 A8 2 Shebas Eske
18:09 A9 1 Whats Demi Upto
Newcastle
18:39 HP 5 Bramble Capone
19:09 A3 2 Crooks Tyson
20:44 A2 5 Droopys Heron
Yarmouth
20:08 A4 2 Jura Go Go
20:23 A2 3 Tullig Pearl
20:51 A1 5 Crannog
21:06 A7 1 Islas Deasy
Hove
19:33 A1 2 Dinner Omonia
20:21 D2 5 Fletchwood Ziggy
21:44 A8 6 Rhinos Rascal
These are my LTB Trades for Thu Feb 06:
Sunderland
12:18 A2 5 Westwind Brae
12:33 A4 4 Marlhill Pine
13:04 HP 2 Path To Glory
Henlow
11:24 A11 6 Silverview Tom
11:39 A8 2 Anias Baby
12:39 A9 5 Fieldview Gramps
13:39 A7 4 Hather Zen
Perry Barr
11:56 A4 3 Autumn Pam
12:26 A5 1 Skywalker Annie
Sheffield
14:08 A3 1 Pollyinmypocket
15:47 HP 1 Broomwell Wren
17:22 A4 6 Tyrur Sean Andy
17:39 D4 3 Blackwater Flash
Romford
14:12 A4 2 Tycoon Viking
15:11 A5 4 Trapstyle Dallas
17:08 A6 6 Borwick Dasher
17:28 A7 6 Malaga Act
Crayford
15:39 A6 4 Absolute Queen
15:59 A9 6 Sheriff Sky
16:58 A8 2 Absolute Wonder
17:37 A8 1 Suirview Seal
18:09 A9 6 Slip On Luckie
Newcastle
18:22 A2 2 Borna Twig
19:09 A3 5 Springer
Yarmouth
18:29 A6 6 Butterbridge Eva
19:36 A8 3 Gottabe Mine
19:52 A4 4 Hartwood Bandit
20:08 A4 6 Fahrenheit Diva
20:51 A1 3 Feel The Heat
21:06 A7 5 Hartwood Millie
21:22 A5 3 Harena Act
Hove
19:33 A1 6 Anynewswithyou
20:21 D2 1 Droopys Hornets
21:44 A8 3 Yassoo Emmet
Monmore
20:27 A4 6 Waikiki Steve
Sunderland
11:19 A5 1 Groveshill Dubh
12:33 A4 2 Millwood Susie
13:04 HP 6 Possibly
Henlow
11:24 A11 5 Talking Lulu
11:54 A9 4 Ebony Velvet
12:39 A9 1 Millies Honour
13:39 A7 5 Slippy Messi
Perry Barr
11:41 A8 6 Bansha Scolari
11:56 A4 2 Creevy Shadow
Central Park
12:16 A3 4 Hollyoak Carlos
Sheffield
17:22 A4 1 Camp Rocky
Romford
14:32 A1 5 Tagged
15:11 A5 3 Skyline Rocky
15:29 A5 1 Slaneyside Anner
16:29 A2 2 Catherine Pearl
17:28 A7 4 Borwick Happy
17:44 A3 4 Blue Thrill Lad
18:02 A4 6 Pay The Act
Crayford
15:19 A10 3 Popular Charlie
15:39 A6 2 Chickenballxpres
15:59 A9 1 Walkofshame
16:58 A8 6 Colarhouse Leon
17:37 A8 2 Shebas Eske
18:09 A9 1 Whats Demi Upto
Newcastle
18:39 HP 5 Bramble Capone
19:09 A3 2 Crooks Tyson
20:44 A2 5 Droopys Heron
Yarmouth
20:08 A4 2 Jura Go Go
20:23 A2 3 Tullig Pearl
20:51 A1 5 Crannog
21:06 A7 1 Islas Deasy
Hove
19:33 A1 2 Dinner Omonia
20:21 D2 5 Fletchwood Ziggy
21:44 A8 6 Rhinos Rascal
These are my LTB Trades for Thu Feb 06:
Sunderland
12:18 A2 5 Westwind Brae
12:33 A4 4 Marlhill Pine
13:04 HP 2 Path To Glory
Henlow
11:24 A11 6 Silverview Tom
11:39 A8 2 Anias Baby
12:39 A9 5 Fieldview Gramps
13:39 A7 4 Hather Zen
Perry Barr
11:56 A4 3 Autumn Pam
12:26 A5 1 Skywalker Annie
Sheffield
14:08 A3 1 Pollyinmypocket
15:47 HP 1 Broomwell Wren
17:22 A4 6 Tyrur Sean Andy
17:39 D4 3 Blackwater Flash
Romford
14:12 A4 2 Tycoon Viking
15:11 A5 4 Trapstyle Dallas
17:08 A6 6 Borwick Dasher
17:28 A7 6 Malaga Act
Crayford
15:39 A6 4 Absolute Queen
15:59 A9 6 Sheriff Sky
16:58 A8 2 Absolute Wonder
17:37 A8 1 Suirview Seal
18:09 A9 6 Slip On Luckie
Newcastle
18:22 A2 2 Borna Twig
19:09 A3 5 Springer
Yarmouth
18:29 A6 6 Butterbridge Eva
19:36 A8 3 Gottabe Mine
19:52 A4 4 Hartwood Bandit
20:08 A4 6 Fahrenheit Diva
20:51 A1 3 Feel The Heat
21:06 A7 5 Hartwood Millie
21:22 A5 3 Harena Act
Hove
19:33 A1 6 Anynewswithyou
20:21 D2 1 Droopys Hornets
21:44 A8 3 Yassoo Emmet
Monmore
20:27 A4 6 Waikiki Steve
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Thankfully the last few races picked up the pace to return a fair day's pay for the dogs.

Congrats! Nice results Spreadbettingspreadbetting wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:09 amThankfully the last few races picked up the pace to return a fair day's pay for the dogs.

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I don't feel sorry for you anymore!spreadbetting wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:09 amThankfully the last few races picked up the pace to return a fair day's pay for the dogs.
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Here's my list for todays L2B trades. Took about 45 mins-ish to produce overall. Only A graded races, buy may add others in the future.
Gonna look at the BA automation and tweak the stop loss setting to give the trade(s) more time to breathe...
The timing of the entry is important, for now, is dependent on the volume matched at the time.
Gonna look at the BA automation and tweak the stop loss setting to give the trade(s) more time to breathe...
The timing of the entry is important, for now, is dependent on the volume matched at the time.
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I'll plead the fifth on that oneBog wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:31 amCongrats! Nice results Spreadbettingspreadbetting wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:09 amThankfully the last few races picked up the pace to return a fair day's pay for the dogs.
Only with the new strategy?
