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Iron
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'Featurespace’s real-time continual learning process results in an increasingly accurate profile of each customer, which can be used to understand and predict their likelihood of doing anything from committing fraud to responding to particular online promotions.

It means that Featurespace’s clients can intervene immediately and accurately; for example, shutting down an account where fraud is being committed, targeting a special offer at a customer who is at risk of defecting, highlighting linked websites the customer may be interested in, and honing marketing offers to precisely those customers who are most likely to respond.

The result is considerably-reduced fraud-detection costs and risk to company reputation, minimal customer churn, and avoidance of marketing waste, while customers enjoy a much more personalised experience.'

Euler wrote: Have a look at their website: -

http://www.featurespace.co.uk/
andyfuller
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Interesting company but not surprising they use such a company now. Looks like the new PC has in the words of Borat been: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30dXrUm3o6g

The results of the new PC are announced:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... j9QeUoPOi4

Expect more tweaking in the coming years.
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Euler
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Interesting job advert on reed.co.uk

http://www.reed.co.uk/jobs/recoveries-analyst/21127138
PeterLe
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Joking apart; I bet there are a few good candidates on this forum that could be candidates for that!
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LeTiss
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They've missed something off that job advert Peter!

Interpersonal skills not needed
steven1976
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Any ideas what the "betting fingerprint tool" is?
John Doe
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I imagine they track accounts with similar betting patterns, probably was a fraud prevention measure but is now a revenue source.
Iron
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Possibly, but it seems a pretty weak detection tool. There are so many ways to extract a profit from Betfair, so I imagine that most profitable people's method bears some resemblance to someone else's method.

Perhaps there are some occasions when someone has left their flies undone, as it were, and it's pretty obvious what they're up to. But I imagine most of the time it's nigh on impossible for Betfair to know for sure what's happening. So the concern is that people may have their accounts shut even if there isn't compelling evidence against them.

Here's another thought. If the appointed person is good at their job, it won't take them too long to work out what methods are used by the top traders, and it will just be a matter of time before they're making more money than their Betfair salary from those methods themselves, and leave. However, something tells me that won't happen, which means that someone will be assessing methods that they're not competent to implement themselves. But that probably won't stop them saying 'I can see he's using that guy's methods'...

Jeff
John Doe wrote:I imagine they track accounts with similar betting patterns, probably was a fraud prevention measure but is now a revenue source.
PeterLe
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Ferru123 wrote:
Here's another thought. If the appointed person is good at their job, it won't take them too long to work out what methods are used by the top traders, and it will just be a matter of time before they're making more money than their Betfair salary from those methods themselves, and leave. However, something tells me that won't happen, which means that someone will be assessing methods that they're not competent to implement themselves. But that probably won't stop them saying 'I can see he's using that guy's methods'...
it makes you wonder Jeff doesn't it..If there was a high roller who is consistent in their profits and their account was being 'watched'...what would there be to stop that information from being texted to a friend??
steven1976
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Peter Le wrote "it makes you wonder Jeff doesn't it..If there was a high roller who is consistent in their profits and their account was being 'watched'...what would there be to stop that information from being texted to a friend??"

Its okay having the information but what if the high roller used a lot of money to create their edge in the market and move the market in his favour as and when money arrived (especially prior to a football match or an event starts)? In my opinion (based on nothing but being in the markets) this is where the high rollers make their money. If my theory is correct to a certain extent then it would be difficult to upset the apple cart if matey was text what the high roller was doing and he only had a 500 pound bank?
Iron
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Steven

That's a possibility, but I would hazard that most of the big guys don't spoof using big sums of money.

It's risky - what if a backer decides to take your 10K spoof order? And said traders may find it easier to trade with smaller sums, as they're less likely to be noticed and more likely to get filled.

Jeff
steven1976 wrote: Its okay having the information but what if the high roller used a lot of money to create their edge in the market
The Strulach
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Just an update on my complaint which I referred the Gibraltar Gambling Commission (Betfair took my funds and linked my account with half a dozen others). Gib commissioner received my complaint early last November and I was told that my case would be 'prioritised along with all other work in progress'. I asked for an update in January from the commissioner but have not yet received a reply or had any contact since putting in my complaint.
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Iron
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There's probably a good reason why so many UK bookmakers are registered in Gibraltar... :evil:

Have you thought of contacting the Racing Post? Maybe a call from one of their journalists might focus minds at the commission.

Good luck in getting this sorted.

Jeff
The Strulach
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Cheers Jeff. I won't let it lie I can assure you of that. I am going to look into a small claims action and see what that brings. I'm not sure how it will work because Betfair refuse to recognise me as actually existing. They won't give me anything other than standard replies to emails asking for information (these standard replies refer me to prior judgements) and therefore I have nothing to present to anyone about how they came to the conclusions they did (despite having had an account for about 8 years - well before any premium charges came out). So I'll see how it goes with the courts.
Iron
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Good luck.

BTW, it's a common misconception that gambling debts are legally unforceable in the UK (due, I believe, to a 19th century law).

From http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/contra ... ebts-.html

"Britain’s Gambling Act of 2005 -- which comes into effect this year -- has garnered a lot of attention. But one aspect of the new law hasn’t gotten much play, according to Carl Rohsler of London’s Hammonds. It’s the sentence in the act that says, "the fact that a contract relates to gambling shall not affect its enforcement."

Jeff
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