General Election 2019 (UK)

[Emmson]

Only a matter of time before this thread turned nasty again. Time to to avoid

[superfrank]

The Jonathan Ashworth (Shadow Health Minister) recording is quite revealing...

On the prospects for Labour nationally Ashworth tells his worried interlocutor:

“I’ve been going round these national places, it’s dire for Labour… it’s dire… it’s awful for them, and it’s the combination of Corbyn and Brexit….outside of the city seats… it’s abysmal out there… they can’t stand Corbyn and they think Labour’s blocked Brexit. I think middle-class graduates – remainy people – Labour’s doing well among… but not in big enough numbers to deny the Tories a majority.”

When Ashworth is told by his friend that he is trying to “work out what to put in the suitcase [if Corbyn comes to power]” Ashworth tries to reassure him

“I just can’t see it happening. It wouldn’t surprise me – for sake of argument – we held Canterbury because of sort of middle-class, Guardian-reading people, but then the Tories take Bolsover off of Labour it wouldn’t surprise me. The electoral map has being going topsy-turvey because of Brexit and Corbyn.”

It's hard to know what to think re this election. It's making me nervous!

[dragontrades]

This is the time when any dirt that has been saved will be unleashed.
Could be some more stuff coming from both camps.

[jimibt]

This is the time when any dirt that has been saved will be unleashed.
Could be some more stuff coming from both camps.

(cough) - Jennifer Arcuri

[Derek27]

This is the time when any dirt that has been saved will be unleashed.
Could be some more stuff coming from both camps.

(cough) - Jennifer Arcuri

She's got just 36 hours to spill the dirt.

[superfrank]

2017 vs 2019 polls

[Jukebox]

Who are UK Pollsters?

[superfrank]

Who are UK Pollsters?

The title says it's a "10-poll average" so I assume it's all the major pollsters.

[Jukebox]

LOL

[superfrank]

LOL

Latest BBC poll tracker shows the same current position... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49798197

[spreadbetting]

Most poll's will simply return the result the person payng for it is looking for, YouGov try to con people into thinking they're a legitimate government pollster but was simply set up by a couple of tories. Most of the accurate polls will be done by businesses etc and unlikely to see the light of day and most of the 2017 polls were well out with the labour vote %'s so can guess who paid for those.

[superfrank]

Most poll's will simply return the result the person payng for it is looking for, YouGov try to con people into thinking they're a legitimate government pollster but was simply set up by a couple of tories. Most of the accurate polls will be done by businesses etc and unlikely to see the light of day and most of the 2017 polls were well out with the labour vote %'s so can guess who paid for those.

The chart I posted was a comparison of 2017 to 2019 illustrating the collapse of Con support up to polling day - a similar thing could happen this time, but hasn't (yet!).

The £ has risen sharply recently suggesting Corbyn will fall short... https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?p=d1&t=6B.

[dragontrades]

Some large orders laying Con majority

[dragontrades]

Very arousing poll from Britain Erects
https://twitter.com/Britain_Erects/stat ... 5461137408

[Euler]

I can't wait for the election to be over. Such a morass of misinformation all over the place. Social media has made elections such a right mess.

It's sort of... Here is some shocking news, hold on, that's fake, no that fake is fake. No the news of the fake was faked by a fake. Err, what?