track side partner..

[fatboyeno]

Derek
I do it alone but haven't felt the need to sack myself just yet.
You get 2 secs max while the opertunity is there, it's too slow to put binoculars down and pick up tablet.
I like how people don't even Wana hear what the system is and I guess that's a good thing for me. I only need 1 person to be interested.

Can you not hold the binoculars with one hand and have your smartphone in the other?

I'm sure a lot of IR backers will have their smartphone set up with a custom app and will only have to press a button, they'd have a major advantage over you.

If your system involves backing at 1.01 it's not really hard to guess the basis of it - there is only one reason why anyone would want to back at that price.

I don't back a horse when it's about to win at 1.01 for tiny profit, I wouldn't make my fuel traveling there.
When I'm ready to bet I use 1.01 preset button to find me my best odds.
You can't fit all the horses on your phone and start scrolling etc it's fine with tablet and 2 people will be faster. I have done this alone at the track it's not theory, 2 people I have decided is the way.

[fatboyeno]

Can you not hold the binoculars with one hand and have your smartphone in the other?

Yep, that's the easiest way. I was going down the Inspector Gadget route.

I've a feeling this one is going back to that thread about the guy with the giant hat.

Try it for yourself, stand in a field tracking horses, they will be spread out, when your opertunity is there you get 2/3 seconds to go to Ur phone find the horse, place bet. It's tricky and you have also stoped watching the race at the same time.
I will keep searching for a hand
Andy

[ShaunWhite]

It's tricky and you have also stoped watching the race at the same time.

I wouldn't be tracking all horses, I'd be tracking one. Every horse is either going to win or lose so why watch them all? And I'd write an app to do it so I wouldn't be looking anything up on the betfair app or taking my eyes off anything.

Sounds like you've made your mind up. Btw how much are you paying your spotter? Or will they be trusting you to hand over half your winnings while you cover all the loses plus expenses?

[fatboyeno]

Shaun

I'm enjoying this chat but my mind is made on the strategy I'm not here for help with that bit, just someone to help maximize winnings.
You need to watch them all for what I'm doing, I see why you thought a drone could work now from your side.
Allow me to explain inbox humour me?
I'm not looking for a winner but when I get the chance it's 100% safe.
It works just not effecient alone.
IV not thought about a price mabye set amount or once happy you can share investment and winnings.
Alternate Betfair accounts mabye, it would not be in my interest to steel a day's pay and lose the chance for every other event.

[ANGELS15]

On the subject of drones. Racecourses have been concerned about their use. If they keep being used and racecourses continue to voice their disapproval, I wonder if the exchanges may cease to offer in-running to deter drone users making all this redundant?

[LinusP]

On the subject of drones. Racecourses have been concerned about their use. If they keep being used and racecourses continue to voice their disapproval, I wonder if the exchanges may cease to offer in-running to deter drone users making all this redundant?

Zero chance of that happening.

[ANGELS15]

On the subject of drones. Racecourses have been concerned about their use. If they keep being used and racecourses continue to voice their disapproval, I wonder if the exchanges may cease to offer in-running to deter drone users making all this redundant?

Zero chance of that happening.

I love the confidence. I hope it doesn't happen, but what makes you so sure?

[LinusP]

On the subject of drones. Racecourses have been concerned about their use. If they keep being used and racecourses continue to voice their disapproval, I wonder if the exchanges may cease to offer in-running to deter drone users making all this redundant?

Zero chance of that happening.

I love the confidence. I hope it doesn't happen, but what makes you so sure?

Betfair want liquidity / commission, people breaking 'racecourse rules' to place bets is not in their remit.

[ANGELS15]

Zero chance of that happening.

I love the confidence. I hope it doesn't happen, but what makes you so sure?

Betfair want liquidity / commission, people breaking 'racecourse rules' to place bets is not in their remit.

Yes in-running betting is big business not sure what % of Betfair horse racing betting turnover.

[LinusP]

I love the confidence. I hope it doesn't happen, but what makes you so sure?

Betfair want liquidity / commission, people breaking 'racecourse rules' to place bets is not in their remit.

Yes in-running betting is big business not sure what % of Betfair horse racing betting turnover.

About 20%, note that this old:

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[Euler]

It's consistently been 20% for as along as I remember. No idea why it's stuck at that value, but there must be a reason.

[Black Ladder]

"Consumers using exchanges or bookmakers are not prevented by the Gambling Act from using a mobile phone or internet connection to bet in-running from racecourses."
Source: Gambling Commission.

[Black Ladder]

Off topic. Lets start a topic on In-running Home Players. Of which I believe a lot of rail-runners have now migrated.

[ANGELS15]

"Consumers using exchanges or bookmakers are not prevented by the Gambling Act from using a mobile phone or internet connection to bet in-running from racecourses."
Source: Gambling Commission.

Thanks for that I've tried in vain to google the answer but could never get anything concrete only the exeriences of punters from 10 years ago. I haven't been to the races in over 20 years but have felt like going one day. If I did it might be to a course like Windsor, Kempton or Sandown. I would possibly do a manual back to lay trade on Betfair. I can only hope in these modern times that thoses courses will have good 4g signals.

[Naffman]

"Consumers using exchanges or bookmakers are not prevented by the Gambling Act from using a mobile phone or internet connection to bet in-running from racecourses."
Source: Gambling Commission.

Thanks for that I've tried in vain to google the answer but could never get anything concrete only the exeriences of punters from 10 years ago. I haven't been to the races in over 20 years but have felt like going one day. If I did it might be to a course like Windsor, Kempton or Sandown. I would possibly do a manual back to lay trade on Betfair. I can only hope in these modern times that thoses courses will have good 4g signals.

I know someone who was at the track and was forced to stop betting in-running using their mobile otherwise if they were caught again then they'd be thrown out and never allowed back in

And those that do get away with it are that discreet you can barely notice they are doing it!

So how can racecourses stop people if the GC says otherwise?