Next Pandemic

[Archery1969]

While not agreeing with CS there is a problem in the UK with illegal migrants, especially along the south coast. Unless someone does something then incidents like the following will increase and people take other dramatic action.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ ... -migrants/

[Crazyskier]

...and counting several Indian-heritage families as both clients and friends,

What do they say when you tell them you don't like too many Indians over here, and would like the place predominantly white?

I think CS referred to "acceptable is ''Anglo-Saxon heritage''".
So not necessarily white.
And your reference to the influence of the Romans, Vikings and Normans did fly into my mind too.
But hey, the response overall is that we disagree with his view on this issue. If CS can provide a cogent argument for his view that's fine.

Please don't mis-quote me. I replied to a question as to what constitutes being 'English'. The standard response by historians is indeed, Anglo Saxon heritage. And rightly so.

CS

[sionascaig]

Please don't mis-quote me. I replied to a question as to what constitutes being 'English'. The standard response by historians is indeed, Anglo Saxon heritage. And rightly so.

CS

"Today, the term “Anglo-Saxon” is little used in mainstream American circles, perhaps as a chiding WASP label directed toward northeastern elites. But as news from earlier this year has shown, it still exists as a supremacist dog whistle. Its association with whiteness has saturated our lexicon to the point that it’s often misused in political discourse and weaponized to promote far-right ideology.

Direct quote from the Smithsonian...

"For years, scholars of medieval history have explained that the term Anglo-Saxon has a long history of misuse, is inaccurate and is generally used in a racist context."

Not the 1st time you have spouted BNP playbook bollocks on this forum...

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... 180978169/

[greenmark]

What do they say when you tell them you don't like too many Indians over here, and would like the place predominantly white?

I think CS referred to "acceptable is ''Anglo-Saxon heritage''".
So not necessarily white.
And your reference to the influence of the Romans, Vikings and Normans did fly into my mind too.
But hey, the response overall is that we disagree with his view on this issue. If CS can provide a cogent argument for his view that's fine.

Please don't mis-quote me. I replied to a question as to what constitutes being 'English'. The standard response by historians is indeed, Anglo Saxon heritage. And rightly so.

CS

Please yourself. I think Anglo -saxon" isa nonsensical definition that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Why not go back to Africa where, by academic account, all humans are from?
So we're all African? Or shall we pick an era that suits our agenda.
Frankly, I dont give a stuff. I've worked, lived and socialised with enough nationalities to realise compartmentalising myself or anyone as X, Y or Z is just nonsense.

[Derek27]

What do they say when you tell them you don't like too many Indians over here, and would like the place predominantly white?

I think CS referred to "acceptable is ''Anglo-Saxon heritage''".
So not necessarily white.
And your reference to the influence of the Romans, Vikings and Normans did fly into my mind too.
But hey, the response overall is that we disagree with his view on this issue. If CS can provide a cogent argument for his view that's fine.

Please don't mis-quote me. I replied to a question as to what constitutes being 'English'. The standard response by historians is indeed, Anglo Saxon heritage. And rightly so.

CS

Isn't that everybody? Every white European has descended from Alfred the Great, that's a mathematical fact. I know I have distance Portuguese blood so that probably includes me ... and most of the world. Given we're going back 40+ generations, how can you not have Anglo Saxon heritage?

[firlandsfarm]

I don't like seeing people arguing on a non-trading thread so maybe this will help ... https://www.worldhistory.org/britain/ (Seriously, I found it an interesting read.)

[Crazyskier]

I think CS referred to "acceptable is ''Anglo-Saxon heritage''".
So not necessarily white.
And your reference to the influence of the Romans, Vikings and Normans did fly into my mind too.
But hey, the response overall is that we disagree with his view on this issue. If CS can provide a cogent argument for his view that's fine.

Please don't mis-quote me. I replied to a question as to what constitutes being 'English'. The standard response by historians is indeed, Anglo Saxon heritage. And rightly so.

CS

Please yourself. I think Anglo -saxon" isa nonsensical definition that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Why not go back to Africa where, by academic account, all humans are from?
So we're all African? Or shall we pick an era that suits our agenda.
Frankly, I dont give a stuff. I've worked, lived and socialised with enough nationalities to realise compartmentalising myself or anyone as X, Y or Z is just nonsense.

Look, I agree that people should be judged on their actions and character, irrespective of skin colour or heritage - that is onIy fair. I think most right-minded people agree that immigration has both benefits and drawbacks, like most things in life.

The care sector and NHS for example wouldn't exist without the thousands of committed professionals that came here from Africa, the Caribbean, India and Pakistan, etc. These people have come here legally and worked hard to integrate with our societal values and culture and there's no doubt that we are all richer as a nation as a result.

But with that said, we must be allowed to address the increasing minority that come here illegally without those values and principles, and in some cases cause dreadful harm to our society and way of life, (think 7/7 terror attacks, FGM, Grooming gangs, etc) without being accused of 'racism' or some kind of unfair bias.

In an era of increasing political polarisation, we must not attempt to stifle debate by name-calling or threats of being cancelled.

CS

[sionascaig]

... The care sector and NHS for example wouldn't exist without the thousands of committed professionals that came here from Africa, the Caribbean, India and Pakistan, etc. These people have come here legally and worked hard to integrate with our societal values and culture and there's no doubt that we are all richer as a nation as a result.

But with that said, we must be allowed to address the increasing minority that come here illegally without those values and principles, and in some cases cause dreadful harm to our society and way of life, (think 7/7 terror attacks, FGM, Grooming gangs, etc) without being accused of 'racism' or some kind of unfair bias.

In an era of increasing political polarisation, we must not attempt to stifle debate by name-calling or threats of being cancelled.

CS

I agree with some of what you say but don't forget all of above is pretty insignificant compared with violence against women.

9% of women aged 16 and over were victims of domestic abuse in the last year
3% of women aged 16 and over were victims of sexual assault in the last year
9% of women aged 16 and over were victims of stalking in the last year
8% of women aged 18 to 74 experienced abuse before the age of 16

I seem to recall 2 women a day die as a direct result of abuse (mostly white, christian and within marriage).

Not suggesting you condone that but you may want to look at your own "unconscious" bias.

[Derek27]

But with that said, we must be allowed to address the increasing minority that come here illegally without those values and principles, and in some cases cause dreadful harm to our society and way of life, (think 7/7 terror attacks, FGM, Grooming gangs, etc) without being accused of 'racism' or some kind of unfair bias.

That's not what you said earlier. You objected to large numbers of non-white people, whether they're migrants or not, illegal or not, causing harm or not, terrorists or not...

You can't worm your way out of that.

[ForFolksSake]

Should we be stopping all travel to and from India ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj50d7e9vp6o

This looks very nasty.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/if ... 5c80&ei=35

[SpikeyBob]

Should we be stopping all travel to and from India ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj50d7e9vp6o

This looks very nasty.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/if ... 5c80&ei=35

How dare you bring this thread back on topic.

[ForFolksSake]

Should we be stopping all travel to and from India ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj50d7e9vp6o

This looks very nasty.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/if ... 5c80&ei=35

How dare you bring this thread back on topic.

When did it go off topic - have I missed something ( Yawn )

[Kai]

But with that said, we must be allowed to address the increasing minority that come here illegally without those values and principles, and in some cases cause dreadful harm to our society and way of life, (think 7/7 terror attacks, FGM, Grooming gangs, etc) without being accused of 'racism' or some kind of unfair bias.

That's not what you said earlier. You objected to large numbers of non-white people, whether they're migrants or not, illegal or not, causing harm or not, terrorists or not...

You can't worm your way out of that.

It was an honest mistake Derek, best to let it go

Although you must wonder what he'd say if he saw you moving in.

[Fugazi]

Not going to lie.

Derek, I always imagined you look like Del Boy.
My mind can't get to grips with the new information on this thread

[Derek27]

Not going to lie.

Derek, I always imagined you look like Del Boy.
My mind can't get to grips with the new information on this thread

That's the thing about forums, you build a picture in your head of other members. But my only real fear is people imagining me as a 20-stone pot-bellied potato couch, sitting in front of my computer all day. That's probably why I mentioned running and weight training on occasions.