Most jobs can be learnt through apprenticeships, earn as you learn is the way forward, just like it used to be.
leave uni for he careers that actually require degrees and then the fee's problem goes away too.
Students
To clarify, would you be in favor of scrapping all non-vocational courses?
Jeff
Jeff
freddy wrote:Most jobs can be learnt through apprenticeships, earn as you learn is the way forward, just like it used to be.
leave uni for he careers that actually require degrees and then the fee's problem goes away too.
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andyfuller
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Student protester jailed for throwing fire extinguisher:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12159581
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12159581
My brother is going to be speaking to some secondary school students about higher education.
I suggested he keep it upbeat and on-message, as it relates to some teacher training that he wants to do. But I added that, if he were telling it like it is, he'd say the following:
'Go straight into the world of work, and you'll probably join the dole queue or end up serving burgers in McD's. Study a non-vocational degree, and you'll probably end up doing the same in 3 years' time. Study a vocational degree, and there's a chance you'll get ahead, although you'll need seriously high grades and extra-curricular achievements if you want to compete for the few decent jobs out there. Sorry kids, but the gravy train is out of juice...'
It's a shame he can't say that, as it's the message young people need to hear. They need to strive for excellence if they want to compete...
Jeff
I suggested he keep it upbeat and on-message, as it relates to some teacher training that he wants to do. But I added that, if he were telling it like it is, he'd say the following:
'Go straight into the world of work, and you'll probably join the dole queue or end up serving burgers in McD's. Study a non-vocational degree, and you'll probably end up doing the same in 3 years' time. Study a vocational degree, and there's a chance you'll get ahead, although you'll need seriously high grades and extra-curricular achievements if you want to compete for the few decent jobs out there. Sorry kids, but the gravy train is out of juice...'
It's a shame he can't say that, as it's the message young people need to hear. They need to strive for excellence if they want to compete...
Jeff
Fight for graduate jobs 'hits record high' in the UK - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-13934518
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From http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyy ... onal-joke/:
There’s plenty of anecdotal evidence that exams became easier under the last Government. One of my favourite stories comes from a book called School Daze: My Search for a Decent State Secondary School by the Daily Mirror journalist Andrew Penman. He reveals that in the summer of 2008 a GCSE English paper asked examinees to describe the room they were sitting in. One candidate gave the following two-word answer: “F*** off.” The exam board in question, Assessment and Qualifications Alliance, awarded him two points out of a possible 27. Justifying this decision, a spokesman for the board said: “It does show some very basic skills we’re looking for — like conveying some meaning and some spelling. If it had got an exclamation mark it would have got a little bit more.” Never let it be said that you don’t get additional points in GCSE English for good punctuation.
Jeff
There’s plenty of anecdotal evidence that exams became easier under the last Government. One of my favourite stories comes from a book called School Daze: My Search for a Decent State Secondary School by the Daily Mirror journalist Andrew Penman. He reveals that in the summer of 2008 a GCSE English paper asked examinees to describe the room they were sitting in. One candidate gave the following two-word answer: “F*** off.” The exam board in question, Assessment and Qualifications Alliance, awarded him two points out of a possible 27. Justifying this decision, a spokesman for the board said: “It does show some very basic skills we’re looking for — like conveying some meaning and some spelling. If it had got an exclamation mark it would have got a little bit more.” Never let it be said that you don’t get additional points in GCSE English for good punctuation.
Jeff
More than one in four graduates 'fail to find work'-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/un ... -work.html
Jeff
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/un ... -work.html
Jeff
The truth behind the new jobless generation - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/fina ... ation.html
Hits the nail on the head IMHO...
Jeff
Hits the nail on the head IMHO...
Jeff
Unemployed graduate sues ministers for being 'forced' to stack shelves in Poundland
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1jB5QVE67
Idiot!
Does she want to be seen by potential employers as lazy and arrogant?!?
And she doesn't appreciate that doing a menial job might actually help her career. It might tell a potential employer that she's not afraid of hard work, and doesn't see some tasks as beneath her, for example.
Jeff
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1jB5QVE67
Idiot!
Does she want to be seen by potential employers as lazy and arrogant?!?
And she doesn't appreciate that doing a menial job might actually help her career. It might tell a potential employer that she's not afraid of hard work, and doesn't see some tasks as beneath her, for example.
Jeff