I'd be very surprised if this was true
This match will be watched by the whole of Europe, so to orchestrate a 2-2 draw without it looking suspicious would be difficult
Also, the Spanish players in particular already earn fortunes as players. Why would they get involved in something like this? Whoever was behind it would have to pay them mindboggling fortunes, making the fixed result become an obvious fraud in order to recoup that cash.
If they are being threatened by criminals or terrorists, I can't believe it's remained hush hush. Surely, somebody in either camp would have the balls to report it to the authorities
It's all bollox IMO
Euro 2012
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 831443.stm
7/2 !!
Stiched up?...... infront of the whole of Europe?
7/2 !!
Stiched up?...... infront of the whole of Europe?
EURO 2004:Group C / Denmark 2, Sweden 2 : Scandinavians draw a winning hand
By Peter Berlin
Published: June 24, 2004
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PORTO, Portugal:— A full-blooded contest ended in an embarrassing outbreak of Scandinavian neutrality at Euro 2004.
The Danes and Swedes stood still for the last 90 seconds of their Group C match after a late Swedish goal had leveled the score at 2-2.
That was precisely the score both teams needed to be sure of advancing to the second round at the expense of Italy, and neither team made any effort to alter it.
In the 89th minute, Mattias Jonson pounced on a mistake by the Danish goalkeeper to score the goal that ensured that the Swedes would win the group and that the Danes would finish ahead of Italy in Group C.
Immediately, the two teams slipped, spontaneously, into the friendly mode that the Italians had said they feared.
As Andreas Isaksson, the Swedish goalkeeper, rolled the ball around under the sole of his boot in his own penalty area, the Danes stood and watched in their own half, hands on hips.
Mistake by the keeper in the 89th minute !
By Peter Berlin
Published: June 24, 2004
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PORTO, Portugal:— A full-blooded contest ended in an embarrassing outbreak of Scandinavian neutrality at Euro 2004.
The Danes and Swedes stood still for the last 90 seconds of their Group C match after a late Swedish goal had leveled the score at 2-2.
That was precisely the score both teams needed to be sure of advancing to the second round at the expense of Italy, and neither team made any effort to alter it.
In the 89th minute, Mattias Jonson pounced on a mistake by the Danish goalkeeper to score the goal that ensured that the Swedes would win the group and that the Danes would finish ahead of Italy in Group C.
Immediately, the two teams slipped, spontaneously, into the friendly mode that the Italians had said they feared.
As Andreas Isaksson, the Swedish goalkeeper, rolled the ball around under the sole of his boot in his own penalty area, the Danes stood and watched in their own half, hands on hips.
Mistake by the keeper in the 89th minute !
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superfrank
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thought Rooney was crap and looked unfit and fatter than ever... Carroll would have had a hatrick in the first half.
Gerrard was fantastic as nearly always.
Gerrard was fantastic as nearly always.
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lilgreenback
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I thought it interesting to hear Blatter's comments, via twatter!
"After last night's match #GLT is no longer an alternative but a necessity."
He is so unequivocal now; it’s been 2 years since Lamp’s goal that never was in SA, now that one has gone our way he is so sure this is the way to go, prat. The annoying thing is the other smug s**te Platini is a shoe in to take over from him, who on the evening of the England game was so supportive of his goal-line officials… classic.
Also I think that Rooney should worry less about his hair and more about his poor performance; I like Carragher’s comment “A boy from Croxteth should not use hair products”
Having said that at least we have got through and at the end of the day you don’t get any more for a tap in or a 30 yard strike!
"After last night's match #GLT is no longer an alternative but a necessity."
He is so unequivocal now; it’s been 2 years since Lamp’s goal that never was in SA, now that one has gone our way he is so sure this is the way to go, prat. The annoying thing is the other smug s**te Platini is a shoe in to take over from him, who on the evening of the England game was so supportive of his goal-line officials… classic.
Also I think that Rooney should worry less about his hair and more about his poor performance; I like Carragher’s comment “A boy from Croxteth should not use hair products”
Having said that at least we have got through and at the end of the day you don’t get any more for a tap in or a 30 yard strike!
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superfrank
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Germany are currently 1.17 to qualify from the QF v Greece http://sports.betfair.com/football/mark ... .105953403
given the current European situation it would be some irony if the Greeks were to knockout the Germans. football has a habit of throwing up shocks like that. am tempted to oppose Germany. Frankel was similar odds yesterday and a much better bet!
given the current European situation it would be some irony if the Greeks were to knockout the Germans. football has a habit of throwing up shocks like that. am tempted to oppose Germany. Frankel was similar odds yesterday and a much better bet!
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cloud88111
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Isn't it convenient that whenever there is controversy with England, UEFA and FIFA manage to always side against them.
I agree that some technology is needed but it's interesting that people are calling for a system that would have allowed that goal, despite the fact that there was a blatant offside not penalised in the build up. The goal was rightly disallowed, maybe this wasn't for the right reason but a goal should never have taken place and the scoreline reflected that.
I remember in SA another offside wasn't called for one of the German early goals against England yet it was never mentioned. Surely if you want to bring in technology you would want to use it to reduce errors across the board, not just the very rare occurrence of a goal line debate. After all goal line technology would have allowed Henry's handball against Ireland and if brining in technology still leaves wrong decisions then what's the point?
I agree that some technology is needed but it's interesting that people are calling for a system that would have allowed that goal, despite the fact that there was a blatant offside not penalised in the build up. The goal was rightly disallowed, maybe this wasn't for the right reason but a goal should never have taken place and the scoreline reflected that.
I remember in SA another offside wasn't called for one of the German early goals against England yet it was never mentioned. Surely if you want to bring in technology you would want to use it to reduce errors across the board, not just the very rare occurrence of a goal line debate. After all goal line technology would have allowed Henry's handball against Ireland and if brining in technology still leaves wrong decisions then what's the point?
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superfrank
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@cloud88111
+1
UEFA and FIFA don't like us and it's no coincidence that England have been on the wrong end of many dreadful decisions in major tournaments.
the ref in the France game should have been wearing a beret.
we invented the game, world and European football should be run from England.
+1
UEFA and FIFA don't like us and it's no coincidence that England have been on the wrong end of many dreadful decisions in major tournaments.
the ref in the France game should have been wearing a beret.
we invented the game, world and European football should be run from England.
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andyfuller
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But where do you draw the line? Dispute every decision, say when it isn't clear who got the last touch for a throw in, every foul etc etc?cloud88111 wrote:ISurely if you want to bring in technology you would want to use it to reduce errors across the board, not just the very rare occurrence of a goal line debate.
I would be in favour of it if a tennis style system was adopted where you got say 2 allowances per half, if you are wrong you lose one, if you are correct you don't. And while at it adopt the Rugby style of only letting the Captain to talk to the ref, the disrespect shown by the players is a disgrace when you compare it to a rugby match.
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cloud88111
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I agree a set number of reviews would be better. Similar to the NFL you have some sort of signal that you wish to review a decision, but in this case the game continues until a break in play. As soon as the manager were to give his signal the 4th official should take the query and get it reviewed while play continues. At the next break in play the review is finalised and, should the challenge win the clock is reset and play were to continue as if the incident had been caught, if not play resumes from the break where it stopped and the a challenge has been lost.
Assuming the process starts as soon as it it challenged there shouldn't be a huge amount of time spent waiting for a decision and this can be used for all incorrect decisions, rather than the rare few.
I know it's not perfect and there are probably better ways this is just a way I'd like to see it done.
Does anyone else have any views on how they would like to implement technology? I'm always curious to hear these ideas.
Assuming the process starts as soon as it it challenged there shouldn't be a huge amount of time spent waiting for a decision and this can be used for all incorrect decisions, rather than the rare few.
I know it's not perfect and there are probably better ways this is just a way I'd like to see it done.
Does anyone else have any views on how they would like to implement technology? I'm always curious to hear these ideas.
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Dublin_Flyer
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With many controversial passages of play there will always be something else involved which would affect the outcome too. A shirt pull, was X offside at first ball played in, was there a ball to hand or hand to ball involved.
I think they should follow rugby where if the ref has any doubt he goes to a tv match official to settle it. It puts less pressure on the official so long as he is confident enough to use the option and from any rugby game I've been to, it improves it.
Put a mic on the ref too so players can be disciplined post game for abusing officials too
I think they should follow rugby where if the ref has any doubt he goes to a tv match official to settle it. It puts less pressure on the official so long as he is confident enough to use the option and from any rugby game I've been to, it improves it.
Put a mic on the ref too so players can be disciplined post game for abusing officials too