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Derek27
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Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:45 pm
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Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:50 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:21 am


I think millions of people in the UK have no emotions and don’t think straight.

https://youtu.be/h9DtoNm0QJA

I would do a search on the forum for the threads of the Iraq crisis or the Syria crisis and on and on… I’ll bet they’re there and you being such a long time forum member & caring human who started this thread definitely would of started those, right?.
I only started this thread to keep the rant thread free for ranting. :)
To be fair, all I know about the Syrian conflict is that General Admiral Aladeen was to blame for everything. It mustn't have been easy ruling an oil-rich country since the age of six after 97 stray bullets and a hand grenade killed his father in a hunting accident, but I was glad to see him betrayed by his own uncle and exiled to New York, but also sort of happy for him after he fell in love with an American woman.
I had to look up General Admiral Aladeen to figure out what the hell you were talking about. :)
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Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:45 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:50 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:21 am


I think millions of people in the UK have no emotions and don’t think straight.

https://youtu.be/h9DtoNm0QJA

I would do a search on the forum for the threads of the Iraq crisis or the Syria crisis and on and on… I’ll bet they’re there and you being such a long time forum member & caring human who started this thread definitely would of started those, right?.
I only started this thread to keep the rant thread free for ranting. :)
To be fair, all I know about the Syrian conflict is that General Admiral Aladeen was to blame for everything. It mustn't have been easy ruling an oil-rich country since the age of six after 97 stray bullets and a hand grenade killed his father in a hunting accident, but I was glad to see him betrayed by his own uncle and exiled to New York, but also sort of happy for him after he fell in love with an American woman.
Actually that might be the plot to "The Dictator".

Nevermind then :geek:
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:58 pm
Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:45 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:50 am

I only started this thread to keep the rant thread free for ranting. :)
To be fair, all I know about the Syrian conflict is that General Admiral Aladeen was to blame for everything. It mustn't have been easy ruling an oil-rich country since the age of six after 97 stray bullets and a hand grenade killed his father in a hunting accident, but I was glad to see him betrayed by his own uncle and exiled to New York, but also sort of happy for him after he fell in love with an American woman.
I had to look up General Admiral Aladeen to figure out what the hell you were talking about. :)
Same here Derek.

Although in my defense that was basically the full extent of the western media coverage on the Syrian crisis.
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Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:15 pm
Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:45 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:50 am

I only started this thread to keep the rant thread free for ranting. :)
To be fair, all I know about the Syrian conflict is that General Admiral Aladeen was to blame for everything. It mustn't have been easy ruling an oil-rich country since the age of six after 97 stray bullets and a hand grenade killed his father in a hunting accident, but I was glad to see him betrayed by his own uncle and exiled to New York, but also sort of happy for him after he fell in love with an American woman.
Actually that might be the plot to "The Dictator".

Nevermind then :geek:
Is that a reference to Chaplin's "The Great Dictator"?
That was quite a nutty character. That film was released late 1940.
But how prophetic of the idiocy of totalitarianism. What a waste WW1, WW2 were and indeed this latest stupidity.
Turkey have offered a table to get around and talk. Grab that opportunity. Surely it's so simple?
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:42 pm
Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:15 pm
Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:45 pm


To be fair, all I know about the Syrian conflict is that General Admiral Aladeen was to blame for everything. It mustn't have been easy ruling an oil-rich country since the age of six after 97 stray bullets and a hand grenade killed his father in a hunting accident, but I was glad to see him betrayed by his own uncle and exiled to New York, but also sort of happy for him after he fell in love with an American woman.
Actually that might be the plot to "The Dictator".

Nevermind then :geek:
Is that a reference to Chaplin's "The Great Dictator"?
That was quite a nutty character. That film was released late 1940.
Not directly, Sacha Baron Cohen (the Chaplin of today) has basically remade it with "The Dictator", released in 2012.
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If I owned a half a billion dollar yacht, nuclear warheads and some idiot nicked my yacht, I know what I would do. ;)
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At least BJ's benefited from the war in Ukraine.
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Sad but inevitable aspect of warfare, reports of rape coming in.
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Derek27 wrote:
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Sad but inevitable aspect of warfare, reports of rape coming in.
Over 60s ? :o
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Kai wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:12 pm
Wow, some of these stories and reports are so ridiculous that they are probably true. "Ukrainian babushka kills 8 Russian soldiers by giving them poisoned pastries."

I should probably get back to football 🤦‍♂️
Reports Russian soldiers are running out of food and supplies and have to loot homes. That could be a good strategy.

And don't worry about football, there ain't any!
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Interesting article.

Christopher Tremoglie, who lived in Russia and studied its constitution:

Chapter 4, Articles 92 and 93 of the Russian constitution which detail the provisions and process for impeaching a president. The process would require that Putin be charged with “high treason or another grave crime” which the invasion of Ukraine easily warrants.

The charges would have to be presented to the State Duma, the country’s parliament and confirmed by the Russian Federation Supreme Court. Then it would be up to the upper chamber of the Russian parliament, the Council of the Federation to decide whether or not to impeach Putin. The impeachment must be carried out within three months or the charges will be considered rejected.

With all the machinations of Putin to strengthen his grip on power, it seems like there’s a snowball’s chance in Hades of that happening. Tremoglie though thinks that “such a scenario might not be as far off as previously thought.”

He points to the anti-war marches that have been occurring around Russia since the start of the invasion. Despite the normally heavy-handed response to demonstrations and prosecutors threatening protesters with potential criminal charges, which they say would come with long-term consequences, thousands have taken to the streets. Even a Communist Party deputy in the State Duma has participated in the marches.

These have led to many detentions as police try to break up the protests with up to as many as 6,000 arrested including children so far. Tremoglie argues that “the likelihood of [impeachment] grows greater each time Putin displays his totalitarianism.”

Additionally, some cracks may be appearing with the Russian oligarchs, one of the pillars that helps Putin wield power in the nation and abroad. Two of them didn’t voice opposition to the invasion but called for peace. Mikhail Fridman in a letter to staff said the conflict is “a tragedy” for both nations, while Oleg Deripaska called for peace talks “as fast as possible.”
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If in a western democracy leaders can tell us to not meet friends and family yet spend all summer partying himself, or lead an army of civilians to attempt a failed coup and they both get away with it, I can't see how an authoritarian can face justice for invading and destroying a country. We need to get our own act together.

Get BJ out of office, £500 fine and two weeks in prison, 5 years for DT, given his age, and then go after Putin. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:01 pm
If in a western democracy leaders can tell us to not meet friends and family yet spend all summer partying himself, or lead an army of civilians to attempt a failed coup and they both get away with it, I can't see how an authoritarian can face justice for invading and destroying a country. We need to get our own act together.

Get BJ out of office, £500 fine and two weeks in prison, 5 years for DT, given his age, and then go after Putin. :)
Some believe that BJ will get away with it because he hired a top Barrister to respond to the questionnaire and argue the rules didn't apply as his home and place of work are one in the same and a government can't shut down as the country still needs running etc.

I have no clue as to the legal ethics of that. Just saying.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:13 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:01 pm
If in a western democracy leaders can tell us to not meet friends and family yet spend all summer partying himself, or lead an army of civilians to attempt a failed coup and they both get away with it, I can't see how an authoritarian can face justice for invading and destroying a country. We need to get our own act together.

Get BJ out of office, £500 fine and two weeks in prison, 5 years for DT, given his age, and then go after Putin. :)
Some believe that BJ will get away with it because he hired a top Barrister to respond to the questionnaire and argue the rules didn't apply as his home and place of work are one in the same and a government can't shut down as the country still needs running etc.

I have no clue as to the legal ethics of that. Just saying.
I'd love to see BJ's face when he realises his barrister was just taking the piss, as well as his money. :D

Bugger! I'm taking a thread I started myself off-topic. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:55 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:13 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:01 pm
If in a western democracy leaders can tell us to not meet friends and family yet spend all summer partying himself, or lead an army of civilians to attempt a failed coup and they both get away with it, I can't see how an authoritarian can face justice for invading and destroying a country. We need to get our own act together.

Get BJ out of office, £500 fine and two weeks in prison, 5 years for DT, given his age, and then go after Putin. :)
Some believe that BJ will get away with it because he hired a top Barrister to respond to the questionnaire and argue the rules didn't apply as his home and place of work are one in the same and a government can't shut down as the country still needs running etc.

I have no clue as to the legal ethics of that. Just saying.
I'd love to see BJ's face when he realises his barrister was just taking the piss, as well as his money. :D

Bugger! I'm taking a thread I started myself off-topic. :lol:
Has to be the most of topic ever. :lol:
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