Dobbing - Today's DOB's

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Naffman wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:25 pm
Great results guys
Today was all down to Betscalper!

The only one I found today was in the Muss 2.50 - Isabella. BSP 11.00 (hit a low of 5.00 IP)
Sweated up badly pre -race (same as Saxon Warrior in the Derby)
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For information purposes only.

3rd June 2018 - 15:05 - Perth - Nendrum

If I find anymore then I will post them when I can.

Have fun.
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Sunday 03/06/2018

For information purposes only.

Check each one against RacingUK and AtTheRaces for Pace ratings.

Personally, I only select the ones that have raced in the last 30 days, odds > 6 and like to be at the front.

Its just a bit of fun. :)

PS. Although, if it carries on like today then we will be retiring Rodney. :lol:
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Hey guys on a related topic, for UK races (noting I am in Aus so apologies if this is an obvious question) where you have a list of DOB horses like the winningwarlock list, is there a simple way to find out which of them are running on a particular day other than a one by one manual search?
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Cards37 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:10 pm
Hey guys on a related topic, for UK races (noting I am in Aus so apologies if this is an obvious question) where you have a list of DOB horses like the winningwarlock list, is there a simple way to find out which of them are running on a particular day other than a one by one manual search?
There probably is but I am not aware of it.

However, DOB stats on their own don't mean that much. You need to also cross reference with Pace ratings like RacingUK / AtTheRaces or similar. The idea is to pick horses that have good DOB stats and lead from the front or near to it so you can get your trades closed out asap. A horse may have good DOB stats but if it likes running at the back then it will take longer to DOB and things may not go according to plan etc.

Took me 2 hours to find 11 potential DOBs today and cross reference them with Pace ratings. Out of that I selected 7, which all dobbed. Two of them did before their races even started. :)

Let us know if you need any other help/info.

Cheers,
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Is someone following me. The race doesn't start for another 17 hours. :lol:
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BetScalper wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:25 pm
Cards37 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:10 pm
Hey guys on a related topic, for UK races (noting I am in Aus so apologies if this is an obvious question) where you have a list of DOB horses like the winningwarlock list, is there a simple way to find out which of them are running on a particular day other than a one by one manual search?
There probably is but I am not aware of it.

However, DOB stats on their own don't mean that much. You need to also cross reference with Pace ratings like RacingUK / AtTheRaces or similar. The idea is to pick horses that have good DOB stats and lead from the front or near to it so you can get your trades closed out asap. A horse may have good DOB stats but if it likes running at the back then it will take longer to DOB and things may not go according to plan etc.

Took me 2 hours to find 11 potential DOBs today and cross reference them with Pace ratings. Out of that I selected 7, which all dobbed. Two of them did before their races even started. :)

Let us know if you need any other help/info.

Cheers,
Thanks ... and nice work :)
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BetScalper wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:25 pm
Cards37 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:10 pm
Hey guys on a related topic, for UK races (noting I am in Aus so apologies if this is an obvious question) where you have a list of DOB horses like the winningwarlock list, is there a simple way to find out which of them are running on a particular day other than a one by one manual search?
There probably is but I am not aware of it.

However, DOB stats on their own don't mean that much. You need to also cross reference with Pace ratings like RacingUK / AtTheRaces or similar. The idea is to pick horses that have good DOB stats and lead from the front or near to it so you can get your trades closed out asap. A horse may have good DOB stats but if it likes running at the back then it will take longer to DOB and things may not go according to plan etc.

Took me 2 hours to find 11 potential DOBs today and cross reference them with Pace ratings. Out of that I selected 7, which all dobbed. Two of them did before their races even started. :)

Let us know if you need any other help/info.

Cheers,
Thanks for the info.

I had a quick look at the popular (free) patternform site.
Perth305Patt.PNG
Bahrikate is an example of what you say. It would be a type that would be held up more but "might" DOB if all goes according to the plan. The multicoloured numbers are a little confusing, but with some effort, could be interpreted and used alongside some R&D.

It's quite noticeable that some established front runners go off too quick and can become L2B propositions IP. With a back up plan the likes of Bahrikate could be become an option. The IP Trader programme would help spot any moves.

Fail to plan..Plan to fail becomes a little more relevant in this trading game :!:
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:07 am
BetScalper wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:25 pm
Cards37 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:10 pm
Hey guys on a related topic, for UK races (noting I am in Aus so apologies if this is an obvious question) where you have a list of DOB horses like the winningwarlock list, is there a simple way to find out which of them are running on a particular day other than a one by one manual search?
There probably is but I am not aware of it.

However, DOB stats on their own don't mean that much. You need to also cross reference with Pace ratings like RacingUK / AtTheRaces or similar. The idea is to pick horses that have good DOB stats and lead from the front or near to it so you can get your trades closed out asap. A horse may have good DOB stats but if it likes running at the back then it will take longer to DOB and things may not go according to plan etc.

Took me 2 hours to find 11 potential DOBs today and cross reference them with Pace ratings. Out of that I selected 7, which all dobbed. Two of them did before their races even started. :)

Let us know if you need any other help/info.

Cheers,
Thanks for the info.

I had a quick look at the popular (free) patternform site.

Perth305Patt.PNG

Bahrikate is an example of what you say. It would be a type that would be held up more but "might" DOB if all goes according to the plan. The multicoloured numbers are a little confusing, but with some effort, could be interpreted and used alongside some R&D.

It's quite noticeable that some established front runners go off too quick and can become L2B propositions IP. With a back up plan the likes of Bahrikate could be become an option. The IP Trader programme would help spot any moves.

Fail to plan..Plan to fail becomes a little more relevant in this trading game :!:
Yep.

Those selections I posted, there is a column which highlights ones which DOB but never win or trade below a certain figure. These would be good for BTL in early stages and then LTB in the latter.

However, I haven't really got that far in refining everything (R&D) as my DOBS yesterday have paid for my upcoming trip to Canada. :D

At some point I will when/if my DOB system comes crashing back down to earth. :)

Nendrum could be a classic selection that fits the BTL/LTB idea. Its won 2 out of 15 races and DOBBED 10 from 15 but lost 13 times at very short odds (<2).

Early days but I am starting to get excited about this thread. Good things to come me thinks Rodder's. :)
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Had a little look and managed to pick one selection - 14.50 Princeton Royale 3/1

See how it goes
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Naffman wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:16 am
Had a little look and managed to pick one selection - 14.50 Princeton Royale 3/1

See how it goes
I know I have done it but backing anything below 4 is not a good idea from a dobbing point of view.

In your case you will need it to hit 1.5, meaning likely to win.

I know someone who does it full-time and he never selects one below odds of 6.0

Assuming your dobbing of course. :)
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BetScalper wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:17 am
wearthefoxhat wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:07 am
BetScalper wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:25 pm


There probably is but I am not aware of it.

However, DOB stats on their own don't mean that much. You need to also cross reference with Pace ratings like RacingUK / AtTheRaces or similar. The idea is to pick horses that have good DOB stats and lead from the front or near to it so you can get your trades closed out asap. A horse may have good DOB stats but if it likes running at the back then it will take longer to DOB and things may not go according to plan etc.

Took me 2 hours to find 11 potential DOBs today and cross reference them with Pace ratings. Out of that I selected 7, which all dobbed. Two of them did before their races even started. :)

Let us know if you need any other help/info.

Cheers,
Thanks for the info.

I had a quick look at the popular (free) patternform site.

Perth305Patt.PNG

Bahrikate is an example of what you say. It would be a type that would be held up more but "might" DOB if all goes according to the plan. The multicoloured numbers are a little confusing, but with some effort, could be interpreted and used alongside some R&D.

It's quite noticeable that some established front runners go off too quick and can become L2B propositions IP. With a back up plan the likes of Bahrikate could be become an option. The IP Trader programme would help spot any moves.

Fail to plan..Plan to fail becomes a little more relevant in this trading game :!:
Yep.

Those selections I posted, there is a column which highlights ones which DOB but never win or trade below a certain figure. These would be good for BTL in early stages and then LTB in the latter.

However, I haven't really got that far in refining everything (R&D) as my DOBS yesterday have paid for my upcoming trip to Canada. :D

At some point I will when/if my DOB system comes crashing back down to earth. :)

Nendrum could be a classic selection that fits the BTL/LTB idea. Its won 2 out of 15 races and DOBBED 10 from 15 but lost 13 times at very short odds (<2).

Early days but I am starting to get excited about this thread. Good things to come me thinks Rodder's. :)
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BetScalper wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:22 am
Naffman wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:16 am
Had a little look and managed to pick one selection - 14.50 Princeton Royale 3/1

See how it goes
I know I have done it but backing anything below 4 is not a good idea from a dobbing point of view.

In your case you will need it to hit 1.5, meaning likely to win.

I know someone who does it full-time and he never selects one below odds of 6.0

Assuming your dobbing of course. :)
Out of interest and a question directed to long time ‘dobers’ where does the value come from? If this is profitable, logic says it will be the lays, if so why bother backing?
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16:25 Fakenham

This one was on my list I posted last night.

Charlie Chaplin, currently 20.0 on BF

It likes to run close up and has a dob ratio of 5 from 7.

Just for a bit of fun. :D
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It is probably worth looking at placing some low lays fwiw

That one above has won 3 out of last 12 yet has dobbed 9/12

Btw placing a lay at 1.98 (different to most I know) but what would a dob of evs be?
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