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Utah Legalizes Gold, Silver Coins As Currency
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/2 ... 65333.html

The gold standard returns!

Even Zimbabwe are on the right lines... http://www.goldalert.com/2011/05/zimbab ... -numbered/
Zimbabwe’s central bank chief, Dr. Gideon Gono, urged that the nation return to a gold standard and said that the U.S. dollar’s days as the world’s reserve currency are numbered.
You couldn't make it up!
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What's behind the disconnect between bullion and mining stocks? http://www.kitco.com/ind/Stuppler/jun142011.html

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The Gold Price Will Drop More, Aiming at $1,486.50, then $1,460 - $1,450, then the 200 DMA at $1,410
http://silver-and-gold-prices.goldprice ... ng-at.html
Even the scoreboard doesn't quite tell the whole tale this week. In three days the GOLD PRICE lost $52.40 and the SILVER PRICE lost 209.6c. Stocks tried to penetrate resistance, but failed, no matter how much the NGM helped them. Platinum and palladium took a thrashing while the dollar verified its uptrend.

When a market gives back $52.40 (3.4%) in three days, clearly it is correction mode with a good deal of gravity-ward inertia. Once the GOLD PRICE crossed below $1,540 yesterday, the trap door opened. After catching yesterday at $1,515 support, gold could no more than rally to $1,524.10, near $1,525 resistance, and faint today. Plunged as low as $1,498.22, but managed to close a chiseling 50c over $1,500 at $1,500.50, down $%19.60.

It's possible, I suppose, that the GOLD PRICE will rally Monday but not very likely. In the past two days it has cut clean through its 20 Dma ($1,534.36) and 50 DMA ($1,518.88), and its uptrend line from the January low.

The GOLD PRICE will drop more, aiming at $1,486.50, then $1,460 - $1,450, then the 200 DMA at $1,410. This should happen right quickly. Watch closely. Be ready to buy.

The SILVER PRICE has lost 209.6c in the past two days, falling 36.4c today to 3,463.8c and meeting the last (13 June) low. Some support remains at the bottom of the range and May low, 3353c. Once it passes that mark, the silver price will touch its 200 DMA (now 31.36) or even the 300 DMA (now 2704c).

Listen, let the experts all cry and whine and puke in their wastebaskets all they want, y'all just keep your head on your shoulders. Should we not take the correction with the rally? And all the more because it offers us a superb opportunity to pick up silver at firesale prices? Watch closely! Sometime in the next five weeks the bottom should strike. Ready yourself!
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it looks like gold is taking off again... 'making new highs in the last few days. target DOW x 2!
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superfrank wrote:it looks like gold is taking off again... 'making new highs in the last few days. target DOW x 2!
It's skyrocketing! I bet it's due to the ongoing uncertainty re. the Euro...

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Almost certainly, everybody is running for the hills again.
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The tipping point has been hit as far as the Euro is concerned after the news on Italy and Spain yesterday. The bond markets have realised that the game is up and have it the panic button. The break up of the euro zone is imminent. Spain and Italy cannot be bailed out. Bernanke intimating that QE3 is on the table today has also had a big impact on the precious metals.
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Marc Faber - The “Great (Monetary) Reset” Will Destroy Cash

With gold trading strong above $1,600, today King World News interviewed one of the greats, Dr. Marc Faber, Editor and Publisher of the Gloom Boom Doom report. When asked if there will soon be a deal on the debt ceiling in the US Faber stated, “Yes, I’m sure there will be an agreement, but it doesn’t solve the fundamental problem of excessive debt and of further, very substantial deficits.

They’ll iron out something with lots of compromises and with spending cuts that are backloaded, in other words they won’t happen immediately. As we go along say in three or five years time when these spending cuts should occur and when the tax increases should occur, nothing will happen in my opinion.”

When asked about how this will impact gold Faber replied, “Well I think investors are gradually realizing that it’s unusual, with all of the problems in Europe that the euro is actually relatively strong against the US dollar. They are realizing US holders don’t want to hold euros because they don’t trust the euro and the Europeans don’t want to hold dollars because they don’t trust the dollar.

So which currency can they buy? They can invest in Canadian dollars, Australian dollars, New Zealand dollars, Singapore dollars and so forth. But basically the ultimate currency and the ultimate safe asset is gold and silver.

...I just calculated if we take an average gold price of say around $350 in the 1980’s and then we compare that to the average monetary base in the 1980’s, and to the average US government debt in the 1980’s...but if I compare this to the price of gold to these government debts and monetary base, then gold hasn’t gone up at all. It’s gone actually against these monetary aggregates and against debt it has actually gone down. So I could make the case that probably gold is today very inexpensive....

When asked about the end game as he sees it Faber remarked, “Well as I look at Europe and I look at the US and especially at politicians and at central banks, I think the way it will play out is that they will have further massive monetary stimulus and that eventually we will have a reset in the global economy.

But it won’t happen right away this reset, and only after the money printing will have essentially exhausted itself, when it reaches a painful level like in Latin America when we had inflation around 70%, 80% per annum or more, it reached a very painful level where reform was then initiated.”

When asked about the eventual monetary reset he expects and how he sees that playing out Faber had this to say, “Well when the reset comes it will be say a hundred dollar bill will be exchanged for a one dollar bill or something like this. Before we have the Great Reset, the government they will increase the war effort under whatever excuse that will be but I think that is the likely course of action...The wealth destruction will be interesting because...the people that suffer the most before the reset happens are actually the cash holders.”

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/ ... _Cash.html
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superfrank wrote:When asked if there will soon be a deal on the debt ceiling in the US Faber stated, “Yes, I’m sure there will be an agreement
I hope he's right, but I'm not at all sure there will be an agreement.

It could be that the Republicans and Obama are playing a game of brinkmanship, but I doubt it. Both sides have just as much to lose, and the delay is causing the Dow Jones to tumble and jeopardising America's credit rating.

My guess is that the Republicans will force Obama either to ask the Supreme Court if he can raise the debt ceiling, or to pay America's debts by taking previouisly awarded money from various federal agencies (which would probably suit the Republicans just fine anyway!). Either that, or he'll ask Uncle Ben to get the money printing presses warmed up...

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There's more chance of me playing for England than the chances of the debt ceiling not being raised.

I think the next round of QE is assured now that stocks are falling - we have can't have investors losing money can we?!
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Whilst I think it's highly unlikely that the US will default, I don't see it as a given that the debt ceiling will be raised.

I'm sure Mr Bernanke would be more than happy to print some money to tide the US over. And money could be taken from federal agencies.

Extreme times call for extreme measures, and IMHO it's hard to know how this situation will pan out. I think it says something about the state America is in that the Republicans are willing to risk America's AAA status (with all the political fallout that would bring) in order to force a huge reduction in government spending...

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From http://uk.news.yahoo.com/us-debt-deal-e ... 38487.html:

'If there is no deal, the United States, still recovering from the 2008 recession with unemployment hovering around 9.2 percent, would have to cut some 40 percent in spending, setting up a choice between debt payments and programs like government benefits for the poorest, most vulnerable Americans.'

The Republicans might see this as a less undesirable option than accepting a compromise with the Democrats...

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Thoughts on the Euro? I read opinion that the on-going crisis in Europe is caused by the Euro, and the single currency doesn't work because you can't apply a single economic policy to wildly different economic regions.

The Euro will collapse within 2 years?

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Zenyatta wrote:Thoughts on the Euro? I read opinion that the on-going crisis in Europe is caused by the Euro, and the single currency doesn't work because you can't apply a single economic policy to wildly different economic regions.

The Euro will collapse within 2 years?

Back: 2.40 Lay 2.42
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US debt: White House 'Rickrolls' Twitter

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14320229
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