I found it mixed. Some races were great, others were dire.
What ratio is your trading on there manual/automated Peter, out of interest?
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steven1976
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Why do you make most of your entry trades on bf in auto but not on Bd peter?
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andyfuller
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Had a couple of days on Betdaq due to the good racing being on the box and have to say the markets were pretty good, plenty of money on the floor to be picked up.
Seemed to be more money around than I have seen for a while, no doubt due to the Newmarket and Ascot cards but pleasing to see it was very tradeable.
Just wish the API would respond faster, pings are still pretty poor with some data calls going walk abouts. Still seems no development has taken place of the API either - very disappointing.
Have you been on there the last few days Peter? Similar experience?
Seemed to be more money around than I have seen for a while, no doubt due to the Newmarket and Ascot cards but pleasing to see it was very tradeable.
Just wish the API would respond faster, pings are still pretty poor with some data calls going walk abouts. Still seems no development has taken place of the API either - very disappointing.
Have you been on there the last few days Peter? Similar experience?
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andyfuller
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That is good to hear.Euler wrote:I've noticed volumes are definitely picking up on the racing.
Ive noticed volumes are picking up still, though im not sure if i am looking at the right numbers?
I keep an eye on the 'Total matched so far' amounts on Betangel and BETDAQangel. Is this a fair comparison to do so, or do i need to make adjustments for how the figures are calculated?
Ive noticed that almost every race on BETDAQ now goes easily into 6 figures, even on the smaller day to day stuff, where as i think as recent as this time last year it was always around 5 figures, sometimes a low 5 figure number too.
Also ive noticed that a race with an odds on favourite heavily skews the figures into betfairs favour, as people just churn their banks over and over making the figure look a lot higher than it should be. But on competitive races, where there is a more even spread of money, ive seen on a few ocassions the 'Total matched so far' figure on Betdaq beat the betfair one. Though im not sure if these figures can be compared directly?
But just going from how it feels to trade, there is an unmistakable increase in volume and liquidity on Betdaq, even from the start of the year when things started to feel better anyway. Last sunday when doing a little scalping on the eventual winner of the 1000 guineas, i had money matched on both sides of the book on Betdaq at 8.2 and 8.6, where on betfair i had the same amounts sat in the queue at 8.4 and 8.6, both untouched!!
I keep an eye on the 'Total matched so far' amounts on Betangel and BETDAQangel. Is this a fair comparison to do so, or do i need to make adjustments for how the figures are calculated?
Ive noticed that almost every race on BETDAQ now goes easily into 6 figures, even on the smaller day to day stuff, where as i think as recent as this time last year it was always around 5 figures, sometimes a low 5 figure number too.
Also ive noticed that a race with an odds on favourite heavily skews the figures into betfairs favour, as people just churn their banks over and over making the figure look a lot higher than it should be. But on competitive races, where there is a more even spread of money, ive seen on a few ocassions the 'Total matched so far' figure on Betdaq beat the betfair one. Though im not sure if these figures can be compared directly?
But just going from how it feels to trade, there is an unmistakable increase in volume and liquidity on Betdaq, even from the start of the year when things started to feel better anyway. Last sunday when doing a little scalping on the eventual winner of the 1000 guineas, i had money matched on both sides of the book on Betdaq at 8.2 and 8.6, where on betfair i had the same amounts sat in the queue at 8.4 and 8.6, both untouched!!
Ok thanks, I will make sure I am on the right settings for a more accurate comparison.
All my evidence is anecdotal rather than based on data, it would be good to see some actual figures so the growth can be measured more accurately. Though I don't need to data to know that the fill rate has improved a lot, you can tell that just by trading it. I like it when I have two identical positions open on both exchanges and seeing which one fills first! It's amazing how often the Betdaq one wins these days, where as a few years ago this would never happen.
All my evidence is anecdotal rather than based on data, it would be good to see some actual figures so the growth can be measured more accurately. Though I don't need to data to know that the fill rate has improved a lot, you can tell that just by trading it. I like it when I have two identical positions open on both exchanges and seeing which one fills first! It's amazing how often the Betdaq one wins these days, where as a few years ago this would never happen.