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Kai
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Archery1969
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Russian general, Lt Gen Yakov Rezantsev Killed.

That’s number 8.

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Ukraine claims that the Russian defense minster Sergei Shoigu who has not been seen for 15 days collapsed with a heart attack after Putin accused him of botching invasion.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:54 am
Makes you wonder where all that $500 million per day from gas and oil has been going. Obviously it’s not been on military equipment.

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Putin's palaces are his top priority. It's rumoured he spent $500M on a toilet brush. :)
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Kai wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:13 pm
Ukraine claims that the Russian defense minster Sergei Shoigu who has not been seen for 15 days collapsed with a heart attack after Putin accused him of botching invasion.
Yes, his heart was attacked with a bullet. :lol:
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Kai wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:39 am
At this point you would doubt their nukes even work, they might just blow themselves up if they try to launch one.
I heard Russian nukes are controlled by a Z-80 chip.
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Kai wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:27 am
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Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:56 pm
Still don't get this. So simple. Table, sit around it, thrash things out, compromise. Done.
But no, lets fipping blow each other up for a bit. Fuck me!!
Well, the whole thing is about the newly discovered natural resources, isn't it, something we didn't really know at the start of this invasion.

In 2012 they discovered massive reserves of natural gas in the Crimea area, and what happened next? Crimea annexed by Russia 2 years later. Huge shale gas deposits discovered in the Donbas region? Suddenly there are nazis there and this part of Ukraine has to be taken away from them, the British company Shell was going to help them commercially sell it from 2017 but the war in 2014 conveniently prevented this.

Basically Ukraine was on its way to become the next petrostate like Russia, but in Kremlin they weren't too fond of a future where we instead buy gas from a pro-western NATO member like Ukraine. I think John McCain said it best years ago : "Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country."

Overall very disappointing to see yet another brutal conflict over natural resources, we're basically like rats fighting over leftover scraps on a dying planet.
Just had a squint at Russia's GDP. They were going great until the annexation of Crimea in 2014. Then sanctions and GDP just fell away dramatically.
This may explain why Russians see Putin differently than we do. 160% rise in living standards then bam! And Putin has blamed the wicked West for Russians being hit in the pocket. The latest (and future) sanctions are going to cheese Russians off even more. Who they decide to blame is yet to become clear.
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greenmark wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:54 pm
Kai wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:27 am
greenmark wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:56 pm
Still don't get this. So simple. Table, sit around it, thrash things out, compromise. Done.
But no, lets fipping blow each other up for a bit. Fuck me!!
Well, the whole thing is about the newly discovered natural resources, isn't it, something we didn't really know at the start of this invasion.

In 2012 they discovered massive reserves of natural gas in the Crimea area, and what happened next? Crimea annexed by Russia 2 years later. Huge shale gas deposits discovered in the Donbas region? Suddenly there are nazis there and this part of Ukraine has to be taken away from them, the British company Shell was going to help them commercially sell it from 2017 but the war in 2014 conveniently prevented this.

Basically Ukraine was on its way to become the next petrostate like Russia, but in Kremlin they weren't too fond of a future where we instead buy gas from a pro-western NATO member like Ukraine. I think John McCain said it best years ago : "Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country."

Overall very disappointing to see yet another brutal conflict over natural resources, we're basically like rats fighting over leftover scraps on a dying planet.
Just had a squint at Russia's GDP. They were going great until the annexation of Crimea in 2014. Then sanctions and GDP just fell away dramatically.
This may explain why Russians see Putin differently than we do. 160% rise in living standards then bam! And Putin has blamed the wicked West for Russians being hit in the pocket. The latest (and future) sanctions are going to cheese Russians off even more. Who they decide to blame is yet to become clear.
If I told somebody that I'm the only honest person in the world and he should only trust me, he'd laugh in my face. That's more or less what Putin is saying, the whole world and every TV news station except his is lying - why can't the average Russian see through that?
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I had been wondering why a Grand master chess champion (Garry Kasparov) was continually giving commentary and analysis to news stations these last few weeks, I'd assumed it was just because he was from Russia, but just finding out he's the chairman of the Human Rights Foundation explains it
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Leaked Kremlin document shows 9,800 Russian soldiers killed and 16,000 injured of which 3,400 are critical.

Putin better get his troops out quickly otherwise Russian victory day parade on 9th May will be embarrassing.

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Dallas wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:31 pm
I had been wondering why a Grand master chess champion (Garry Kasparov) was continually giving commentary and analysis to news stations these last few weeks, I'd assumed it was just because he was from Russia, but just finding out he's the chairman of the Human Rights Foundation explains it
He's always been a political activist and critic of Putin and I think he's been arrested and beaten up or at least roughly treated by the police. A much-admired chess genius, probably the GOAT at the time, Russia could do far worse than having him as a leader.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:32 pm
Leaked Kremlin document shows 9,800 Russian soldiers killed and 16,000 injured of which 3,400 are critical.

Putin better get his troops out quickly otherwise Russian victory day parade on 9th May will be embarrassing.

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With any luck, Putin will accidentally get run over by a tank on victory day parade. :D
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:38 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:32 pm
Leaked Kremlin document shows 9,800 Russian soldiers killed and 16,000 injured of which 3,400 are critical.

Putin better get his troops out quickly otherwise Russian victory day parade on 9th May will be embarrassing.

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With any luck, Putin will accidentally get run over by a tank on victory day parade. :D
By a farmer bringing it back. 😂
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Beth Rigby is definitely a 10 pinter ain’t she!
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:45 pm
Beth Rigby is definitely a 10 pinter ain’t she!
I'd have her after 4. ;)
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