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Naffman
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The pro Tim Scott SuperPAC cancels all TV ads this fall, with the Q3 fundraising deadline yesterday I think we will see a lot of candidates start exiting the race with donors giving up.
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:24 pm
A court has ruled that Trump has committed fraud for years, inflating the value of his assets to secure finance, and deflating them for tax or whenever it suited him.

No mention of what happens next. Is that not enough to bang him up?
If so then you can bang up many people ... let he who has never accepted cash in return for a taxable transaction and not reported it and/or who has never presented the 'best' representation of their financial position when applying for finance cast the first stone.
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What do they do with any unspent donations when they pull out? Impossible to return to donors.
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:16 am
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:24 pm
A court has ruled that Trump has committed fraud for years, inflating the value of his assets to secure finance, and deflating them for tax or whenever it suited him.

No mention of what happens next. Is that not enough to bang him up?
If so then you can bang up many people ... let he who has never accepted cash in return for a taxable transaction and not reported it and/or who has never presented the 'best' representation of their financial position when applying for finance cast the first stone.
It's not the act but the size of the fraud that counts. And he was president, FFS. Aren't law-abiding and tax-paying citizens entitled to better?
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Sidney Powell to flip on Trump, a pretty sweet deal she got considering she was one of the higher-ups.

Hearing Vivek may choose to miss the 3rd debate meaning it could quite possibly be just DeSantis and Haley on the stage, Trump's dream of a crowded field falling apart.
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Trump will be pleased. Friend and Ally Mike Johnson wins House Speaker vote.
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Trump storms out of courtroom after testifying with secret service officers chasing after him and gasps from the courtroom, he was also fined $10k after defying his gag order for the second time.
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I was tempted to start a new thread called Today's Shooting, but I thought it might be in bad taste.

22 people dead and the gunman still at large. Surely that kills the argument, if the (unexpecting) good guys are armed, they'll defeat the (fully prepared) bad guy?
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:31 am
I was tempted to start a new thread called Today's Shooting, but I thought it might be in bad taste.

22 people dead and the gunman still at large. Surely that kills the argument, if the (unexpecting) good guys are armed, they'll defeat the (fully prepared) bad guy?
While a large number of US residents are armed, percentage wise not many have a permit for concealed carry in public. So it’s best left to law enforcement to deal with. If in Texas though then open carry is allowed, hell bars even have a secure place where you can store your guns while having a pint. As mad as that sounds. So best not to start shooting people in that state as you may suddenly find yourself being shot back at by hundreds of private citizens.

And for those that don’t know, open carry means you can walk down the street with double six shooters on your belt, as long as you not concealing them then your breaking no laws. However, don’t try that in New York as you won’t make it to the office, home or anywhere else you might be travelling too.
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Congressmen Jared Golden made a humble apology for supporting the right to carry arms and is back-tracking on assault rifles. There might be a glimmer of hope for America after all.
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:41 pm
Congressmen Jared Golden made a humble apology for supporting the right to carry arms and is back-tracking on assault rifles. There might be a glimmer of hope for America after all.
No chance. Americans won’t hand their guns over without a fight, causing a large bloodbath nationwide.
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Ivanka Trump has to give evidence against her dad. :D
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:28 pm
Ivanka Trump has to give evidence against her dad. :D
Will definitely throw Eric, Don Jr and Donald under the bus, for sure.
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Nov 1st - Don Jr
Nov 2nd - Eric
Nov 3rd - Ivanka
Nov 6th - The Don

And if he doesn't testify then the judge can make it so he pays more in damages.
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Pence suspends campaign, the first of the big names to do so.
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