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TraderFred wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:42 am
Backing a greyhound after watching it take a shit used to be popular with betting shop folk.

I think it has about a 2 % ROI.
I heard that one too. :D

If it was T1 having a dump, just in front of Trap 2's starting position, usually meant T2 would swerve to take out the remaining runners. Unless it swerved in front of T1....Jeeeze back to the drawing board...
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I just like the idea of a betting shop full of punters, all close up to a screen, watching a dog have a crap :)
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TraderFred wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:42 am
Backing a greyhound after watching it take a shit used to be popular with betting shop folk.
I sort of miss being in the bookies all day, it was a bit like a down market gentleman's club. Chatting about the racing, playing dominos and drinking Thunderbird with the old Jamaican guys, happy days really. And you could have a fag without being made to go outside. ahhh jumpers for goal posts.
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Fun Fun Fun. :)
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Thought I'd post up something I'm working on.

A you-tube video (1min 32secs) put up by Chris Bennett, got me thinking... :?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79Jjs5-TK8Y

Here's my output on a random race today.

Nott11.21.jpg

I've tweaked things a little and added a key rule to find a qualifying race.

Essentially, every runner in an A graded race, must have a minimum of 2 completed runs over the Course/Distance, in it's last 3 runs. Ignore trial times or any other non C/D race.

Using the Racing Post Online Cards
Any runner that has 3 green blocks gets my attention, especially a (b)itch in form.
Also, any runner, dropped in grade, that has 2 or 3 green blocks suggests it's been given a chance.
Col E - BRT(L3) uses the best recorded time in the last 3 C/D runs.
Col H - Best split (L3)- helps visualise the race.

In the example above, T2, looks best on profile, but will need to do it the hard way. T4 looks set for a clear run and maybe the overall favourite.


Here's one from yesterday;

Henl11.39Jul20.jpg

Good example of a (b)itch in form, Up in grade, 3 green blocks. The splits suggest a race to the 1st bend crucial...T1 wins. Market thought T2.
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:00 am
Thought I'd post up something I'm working on.

A you-tube video (1min 32secs) put up by Chris Bennett, got me thinking... :?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79Jjs5-TK8Y

Here's my output on a random race today.


Nott11.21.jpg


I've tweaked things a little and added a key rule to find a qualifying race.

Essentially, every runner in an A graded race, must have a minimum of 2 completed runs over the Course/Distance, in it's last 3 runs. Ignore trial times or any other non C/D race.

Using the Racing Post Online Cards
Any runner that has 3 green blocks gets my attention, especially a (b)itch in form.
Also, any runner, dropped in grade, that has 2 or 3 green blocks suggests it's been given a chance.
Col E - BRT(L3) uses the best recorded time in the last 3 C/D runs.
Col H - Best split (L3)- helps visualise the race.

In the example above, T2, looks best on profile, but will need to do it the hard way. T4 looks set for a clear run and maybe the overall favourite.


Here's one from yesterday;


Henl11.39Jul20.jpg


Good example of a (b)itch in form, Up in grade, 3 green blocks. The splits suggest a race to the 1st bend crucial...T1 wins. Market thought T2.
Awesome insights. :)
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:20 pm
wearthefoxhat wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:00 am
Thought I'd post up something I'm working on.

A you-tube video (1min 32secs) put up by Chris Bennett, got me thinking... :?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79Jjs5-TK8Y

Here's my output on a random race today.


Nott11.21.jpg


I've tweaked things a little and added a key rule to find a qualifying race.

Essentially, every runner in an A graded race, must have a minimum of 2 completed runs over the Course/Distance, in it's last 3 runs. Ignore trial times or any other non C/D race.

Using the Racing Post Online Cards
Any runner that has 3 green blocks gets my attention, especially a (b)itch in form.
Also, any runner, dropped in grade, that has 2 or 3 green blocks suggests it's been given a chance.
Col E - BRT(L3) uses the best recorded time in the last 3 C/D runs.
Col H - Best split (L3)- helps visualise the race.

In the example above, T2, looks best on profile, but will need to do it the hard way. T4 looks set for a clear run and maybe the overall favourite.


Here's one from yesterday;


Henl11.39Jul20.jpg


Good example of a (b)itch in form, Up in grade, 3 green blocks. The splits suggest a race to the 1st bend crucial...T1 wins. Market thought T2.
Awesome insights. :)
Thanks.

Works very well at identifying a false favourite.

Monm14.07.jpg

In this race, the prediction was T3, T2, T1....T6 was the false favourite @ 15/8! (T3 won the race)
Also another example of a grey going up in grade and still having a strong profile to win.
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:40 pm

Thanks.

Works very well at identifying a false favourite.


Monm14.07.jpg


In this race, the prediction was T3, T2, T1....T6 was the false favourite @ 15/8! (T3 won the race)
Also another example of a grey going up in grade and still having a strong profile to win.
Why would it be classed a false favourite? It came second and only beaten by a dog a few ticks higher in the betting.
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spreadbetting wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:12 pm
wearthefoxhat wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:40 pm

Thanks.

Works very well at identifying a false favourite.


Monm14.07.jpg


In this race, the prediction was T3, T2, T1....T6 was the false favourite @ 15/8! (T3 won the race)
Also another example of a grey going up in grade and still having a strong profile to win.
Why would it be classed a false favourite? It came second and only beaten by a dog a few ticks higher in the betting.
Just terminology.

My view is, out of the main 3 short-listed, one of them should be the favourite, if anything else is, then it's a false favourite and can be poor value and could/should be a lay bet.
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Fun Fun Fun. :)
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Henlow 11.54 23rdJuly

Henl11.54.jpg

Profile of T4 is supported by the RPost with a NAP, so should be the favourite and maybe a market mover.

The race itself suggests some trouble at the first bend and may let T1 slip through at a big price. (has to find 2 or 3 lengths on the clock)
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Is it just me - but don't Australian greyhounds appear to want it more?
It might be an illusion because of the offset starting positions - or camera angles and lighting and 8 dog races - but those Aussie dogs just seem to be trying so much harder by comparison to UK dogs to get out in front and fight to the end.
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Fun Fun Fun. :)
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:03 pm
Fun Fun Fun. :)
mark -good work. that said, i almost never have any sort of special visuals, other than for visualisation of competing prices etc (heat maps, graphs). i reckon that should be your next endevour - will be very useful as a trading tool (plus, we can all nick the ideas :D)
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jimibt wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:34 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:03 pm
Fun Fun Fun. :)
mark -good work. that said, i almost never have any sort of special visuals, other than for visualisation of competing prices etc (heat maps, graphs). i reckon that should be your next endevour - will be very useful as a trading tool (plus, we can all nick the ideas :D)
Thanks Jim,

I been using the information as follows:

At 1m 30s or selection matched volume >= £1,000 then

If the selections minimum % is >= 66 then
Close any open trades and open a LTB

If the selections maximum % is <= 33 then
Close any open trades and open a BTL

Early days but it does show some merit.

Time will tell long term... 😇
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