DOBing - Back & Lay at 50% Guardian Automation Bot

[ricardodeano]

I simply cannot trust the idea of horse racing automation any more.

move funds to Aus wallet etc etc (i know you may have done this, but just reiterating it for other newbies)

Hello, newbie here *puts up hand* - why would you transfer funds to your Aus wallet? Is it just to ensure that if things go really against you, you're not likely to lose your entire bank?

[Dallas]

I was using £2 stakes on 2 different horses,I chose greening at 25 ticks and closing trade when greater than £2 profit across all selections. In the case where it went wrong and after weeks of doing the same trade for some reason it just never closed the trade on the outsider,a 50/1 shot which I fancied to DOB and which should have done too. I did keep unmatched bets so maybe the outsider didnt get matched before the off and tried to lay in play without the back bet being taken? I really dont know to be honest but I am still confused about it all.

Without seeing the actual log the best anyone can do is speculate but the worst this rule should be able to do is lose your initial back stake any loses greater than this would be down to some sort of misfire obvioustly you need to try and identify exactly why this happened but as a precaution for future this is where using the Aus wallet can help

Hello, newbie here *puts up hand* - why would you transfer funds to your Aus wallet? Is it just to ensure that if things go really against you, you're not likely to lose your entire bank?

If you transfer funds to your Aus wallet (has to be done on BF website) that can limit any losses should a bot go wrong, so if you have £100 in your main account and using £2 back stakes for a bot it would be worth tranfering around £80 into your AUS wallet then the worse you can lose is the £20 you have left in your main account

[ricardodeano]

Hi Dallas, ok yeah that makes sense - thanks for clarifying.

[Bladesmanstan]

Been using this bot for a while now, and its just cost me abit of money, can anyone see what as happened? The log is below

Any advice would be appreciated thanks

13/07/2016 16:44:41: Market changed to DownP 13th Jul - 16:50 2m2f Hcap Hrd
13/07/2016 16:48:59: [G_Auto] : £ 5.00 Back bet placed on Lattesa at 13.5. Fully matched at 13.5. Ref: 71061093465
13/07/2016 16:51:15: Market has been suspended
13/07/2016 16:51:15: Market is in-play
13/07/2016 16:51:16: Market has been unsuspended
13/07/2016 16:55:07: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Lattesa by Laying 10.23 at 6.6
13/07/2016 16:55:10: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 71061441482
13/07/2016 16:55:11: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Lattesa by Laying 9.12 at 7.4
13/07/2016 16:55:17: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Lattesa by Laying 0.43 at 8.8
13/07/2016 16:55:58: Market has been suspended

[Dallas]

It looks like when the 2nd green up order was sent to Betfair (which would normally cancel the unmatched 1st green-up) sometime during the 1 sec delay the 1st was matched so there was nothing for the 2nd to actually cancel before it was submitted to the market.

[Bladesmanstan]

Thanks Dallas, is there anything i could do to prevent this happening again, i was lucky that it was low odd's and small stakes this time.

[Dallas]

There is not much you can really do its just down to freak chance that it was matched milli seconds after the cancel order and new green up was submitted if it is a problem apart from increasing the number of triggers for this 'close trade with greening' rule you could try adding a rule type 'Green all selections' and use a matched bets condition to ensure it only triggers after a certain number of bets have been matched.
This will give you another layer of security and would only trigger if you dont have a equal green after the 'close trade' ones have fired.

[Bladesmanstan]

No probs Dallas, thanks for your input pal. You are the king of Automation!!

[eminbe]

Hi

I am having a problem with the Automation, when I select 1 or 2 horses it meant to run automatic but it doesn't and I lost a lot of profit in couple of days. I have to open each event in bet angle for the automation to work. I thought you don't meant to do that and do other things like walk the dog.

Is there anything settings am doing wrong?

[Dallas]

At the top left of the main you will see 'Automatically switch to Bet Angel market' this should be ticked and the number of seconds used should be at least 10 seconds.

This will ensure the market is in focus and being refrsehed by your main Bet Angel refresh settings.

This thread details how the market cycling and refrsehing is done in guardian and how best to set it up for a given situation
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11491

[eminbe]

Thanks for your help, I used to run automation on football without opening in bet angle, and what happens if there are 2 races running at the same time or a race about to start while the other is still running?

[Dallas]

In that situation you would use the 'restrict refresh' option on the advanced tab of guardian and set this to something like
10 secs before start time
till 600 secs after start time

That way its now only cycling/refreshing those markets, and if you ensure your guardian refresh rate is set to 200ms even if you had 5 markets being refreshed they would still all get chanced at least once per second and will allow this rule to trigger fine

[eminbe]

Thanks for your help again,, Is there a way I could set a bank value in practice mode?

[Dallas]

Thanks for your help again,, Is there a way I could set a bank value in practice mode?

No there is'nt but if your wanting to record your results these threads should help

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11349
and
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12327

[eminbe]

At the top left of the main you will see 'Automatically switch to Bet Angel market' this should be ticked and the number of seconds used should be at least 10 seconds.

This will ensure the market is in focus and being refrsehed by your main Bet Angel refresh settings.

This thread details how the market cycling and refrsehing is done in guardian and how best to set it up for a given situation
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11491

Every time I reset bet angel it resets the settings back as default:
Automatically switch to Bet Angel market
Refresh interval
Restrict refresh
Export reports on market closure

How can I save the settings so it never goes back to default each time its resets.