Back the Likely Winner Automation Bot for Horse Racing

[beermonsterman]

I would say all rules are time dependant but if your looking for a certain green amount or red amount it will only trigger when that amount is met so I would arm it to be always armed on the time general screen as long as this suites your other rules

[TallblokeUK]

I would say all rules are time dependant but if your looking for a certain green amount or red amount it will only trigger when that amount is met so I would arm it to be always armed on the time general screen as long as this suites your other rules

Thanks, yes, I got it working, but it's not optimal. Not many examples but it triggered and then the horse came back to win meaning I lot on the lays!

Perhaps it needs a "history" rule to check it stays at the price for a few seconds like the back?

[beermonsterman]

Yes that's a good idea dont red out straight away as bots get triggered all the time with volatility but if you use a time frame then it can go against you then return back without triggering the stop I'm sure their is a topic on this somewhere in here
good luck

[TallblokeUK]

Yes that's a good idea dont red out straight away as bots get triggered all the time with volatility but if you use a time frame then it can go against you then return back without triggering the stop I'm sure their is a topic on this somewhere in here
good luck

Just testing it in practice mode. First race, even with a 3 second delay it placed a lay bet and then the horse went on win.

Is it possible that with the three second delay the hostoric price could be greater than 3 but it has already moved back?

Should I also set a condition to say the current price and historic price need to be greater than 3?

[TallblokeUK]

Still tweaking this automation as a newbie it's amazing what you can tell from watching some numbers... mentally picturing what is going on in the race!

So things to work on would be...

1) What to do for the best if there are 2 close runners
2) How to protect yourself from a late surge by another horse from out of the blue.

Any insights on this would be greatly appreciated.

For (1)

Only place the Back bet if there is a gap between the horses in position 1 and position 2 of X but not sure if this would work or how to achieve it.

For (2)

I was thinking something along these lines, but... err... would it work and is it possible?

Look at horses in any position
Check there is no bet on the horse
If odds become better than the backed horse
Lay the backed horse

Once again, apologies for all the newbiw questions, hopefull someone else if benefiting from this as well

[Derek2783]

Is there anyway to set a condition that no other runner is currently less than odds of 2.0 at the time of placing the bet?

Basically ensuring all other runners are greater than 2.0?

thanks.

[TallblokeUK]

Is there anyway to set a condition that no other runner is currently less than odds of 2.0 at the time of placing the bet?

Basically ensuring all other runners are greater than 2.0?

thanks.

Funnily enough I did this today and I think it is working

I did it for just those in position 2 & 3 though but in theory you would only need to do it for position 2 as anything after that would have a price greater than 2.0?

Fixed Odds Condition
Nominated Position 2 (Sorted in order of favoritism)
Back price greater than 2

*disclaimer* I'm super new to this!

[iggypop37]

2) How to protect yourself from a late surge by another horse from out of the blue.

there is another piece of automation on the forum "back the emerging challenger" for this scenario. It can be useful but the last few seconds of race can be very volatile. just remember to put signals on any horses backed so far, to prevent inadvertent re-backing.

Incidentally I was messing around with 'back the likely winner today' and even with some of the provisos and conditions talked about, a lot get overturned and you end up with a loss.

think it s a case of greening up for a smaller (minimal) loss than the whole caboodle.

Or perhaps, have a reverse 'back the emerging challenger' something like 'lay the donkey' (ahem) and lay any horse where odds are shooting out later on in the race ?

[TallblokeUK]

2) How to protect yourself from a late surge by another horse from out of the blue.

there is another piece of automation on the forum "back the emerging challenger" for this scenario. It can be useful but the last few seconds of race can be very volatile. just remember to put signals on any horses backed so far, to prevent inadvertent re-backing.

Incidentally I was messing around with 'back the likely winner today' and even with some of the provisos and conditions talked about, a lot get overturned and you end up with a loss.

think it s a case of greening up for a smaller (minimal) loss than the whole caboodle.

Or perhaps, have a reverse 'back the emerging challenger' something like 'lay the donkey' (ahem) and lay any horse where odds are shooting out later on in the race ?

I've been playing with it over a few days and hundreds of races running 24/7 to try and get some useful information.

This one is about shaving a bit off the top and a bit off the bottom to put you in a consistent profit and the upping your stake to the most that you can regularly match as far as I can see.

At the moment I'm backing the likely winner with a few rules in places, setting a signal and laying some other horses, but those guys can still go on to surprise you so I probably need to tweak the numbers a little to be a closer "donkey match" as you would put it

[elofan0]

Weight of money condition could also be added greater than 90%

[TallblokeUK]

Weight of money condition could also be added greater than 90%

On the likely winner?

[elofan0]

yes

[elofan0]

small return not saying works everytime

[TallblokeUK]

small return not saying works everytime

Running as a servant rather than a Guardian Automation? What's the difference?

[TallblokeUK]

My current set up wins 73% of the time, but the losses are just fractionally ahead of the profits... working on it..

Greening was something I tried but never seemed to get it to work quite right.

At the moment I'm backing the likely winner then laying based on some rules to try and increase profit on a win and decrease loss on a late challenger taking it.