Slave masters the lot of them.superfrank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:31 pmThe Founding Fathers never envisioned a leftist America.
They'll be turning in their graves at the way it is going (and would likely get banned from Twitter if they were alive today).
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I would imagine there's a lot of things they never envisioned, including microchips, the internet, nuclear technology and space stations. Doesn't mean they're a bad thing.superfrank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:31 pmThe Founding Fathers never envisioned a leftist America.
They'll be turning in their graves at the way it is going (and would likely get banned from Twitter if they were alive today).
Didn't know that. It would be a good idea. He could campaign in 2024 to start war with the east and Americans are so stupid they'd probably vote for him!Trader Pat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:38 pmIt might have something to do with 2024.jamesg46 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:05 pmYeah, I think its inevitable tbh... what concerns me is how his base react to it. I don't really see the point at this stage, the negative reaction could out weigh their upper cut knock out blow but it is what it is as trump would say.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:57 pmThis could make things very interesting tomorrow :
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconn ... rts-report
A successful impeachment needs a 2 thirds majority in the Senate but a ban on holding office in the future only needs a simple majority. You could have a scenario where the GOP could get rid of him for good without having to actually impeach him.
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Looks like Trump could be in for more heartache as German bank who stood by him in the 1990s through x bankruptcies will be pulling the plug and calling in there loans...
I don't think he's got the brains to get very far. Judging by his tweets/YouTube vids he has difficulty understanding simple statements.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:40 pmWasn't there talk of his son running in 2024 ?Trader Pat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:38 pmIt might have something to do with 2024.
A successful impeachment needs a 2 thirds majority in the Senate but a ban on holding office in the future only needs a simple majority. You could have a scenario where the GOP could get rid of him for good without having to actually impeach him.
Derek, Pat said he needed to come out and call for calm, he came out and called for there to be no violence, on more than one occasion. Whatever you make of the rest of his speech is entirely up to you. Fact is he called for no violence which was the point of my reply in context with Pats comment. I'm not interested in getting into well he basically.... that wasn't the point of my reply. Go bug Alex or someone else, I cant be bothered.Derek27 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:45 pmWhat?? He basically endorsed his inflammatory speech as appropriate, effectively encouraging more protest. He also blames the Democrats for creating anger by exercising democratic rights!jamesg46 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:37 pmHe did it today.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:28 pmIf Trump doesn't come out before the inauguration and call for calm then I don't see how people can still defend him with a straight face. Whether he did or didn't incite violence is open to debate but if he doesn't try to calm the situation before next Wednesday its obvious that he's happy for more blood to be spilled.
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Maybe they should have stepped aside and America could have become the democratic, free market success story that is sub Saharan Africa. Hold on a minute.Emmson wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:50 pmSlave masters the lot of them.superfrank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:31 pmThe Founding Fathers never envisioned a leftist America.
They'll be turning in their graves at the way it is going (and would likely get banned from Twitter if they were alive today).
There's no need to get stroppy James, I was just saying that doesn't amount to a call for calm when he immediately contradicts it.jamesg46 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:59 pmDerek, Pat said he needed to come out and call for calm, he came out and called for there to be no violence, on more than one occasion. Whatever you make of the rest of his speech is entirely up to you. Fact is he called for no violence which was the point of my reply in context with Pats comment. I'm not interested in getting into well he basically.... that wasn't the point of my reply. Go bug Alex or someone else, I cant be bothered.
I'm not being stroppy, I'm just being honest. I know if we start getting further into it then it spirals and I can't be bothered. I've had enough debating for a few days, I need a breakDerek27 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:13 amThere's no need to get stroppy James, I was just saying that doesn't amount to a call for calm when he immediately contradicts it.jamesg46 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:59 pmDerek, Pat said he needed to come out and call for calm, he came out and called for there to be no violence, on more than one occasion. Whatever you make of the rest of his speech is entirely up to you. Fact is he called for no violence which was the point of my reply in context with Pats comment. I'm not interested in getting into well he basically.... that wasn't the point of my reply. Go bug Alex or someone else, I cant be bothered.
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So as I understand it...
If Trump is successfully impeached for a 2nd time.
He loses:
- An ex presidents salary.
- An ex presidents homes.
- An ex presidents secret service protection.
- Cannot run for office ever.
On top of that he could end up spending 20 years + in a supermax prison somewhere for other charges.
In the meantime he still has his finger on the buttons and could do allot of further damage to the USA by leaking information to Russia, such as daily briefings etc.
On the above I think the Democrates need to step back and think things through a bit more. Does Biden want to see this through or concentrate on Covid and other stuff as many die hard Reuplicans will see a witch hunt and act accordingly,
Just my opinion....
If Trump is successfully impeached for a 2nd time.
He loses:
- An ex presidents salary.
- An ex presidents homes.
- An ex presidents secret service protection.
- Cannot run for office ever.
On top of that he could end up spending 20 years + in a supermax prison somewhere for other charges.
In the meantime he still has his finger on the buttons and could do allot of further damage to the USA by leaking information to Russia, such as daily briefings etc.
On the above I think the Democrates need to step back and think things through a bit more. Does Biden want to see this through or concentrate on Covid and other stuff as many die hard Reuplicans will see a witch hunt and act accordingly,
Just my opinion....
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Losing his salary, homes and SS protection sounds even better than not being able to run for office.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:19 amSo as I understand it...
If Trump is successfully impeached for a 2nd time.
He loses:
- An ex presidents salary.
- An ex presidents homes.
- An ex presidents secret service protection.
- Cannot run for office ever.
On top of that he could end up spending 20 years + in a supermax prison somewhere for other charges.
In the meantime he still has his finger on the buttons and could do allot of further damage to the USA by leaking information to Russia, such as daily briefings etc.
On the above I think the Democrates need to step back and think things through a bit more. Does Biden want to see this through or concentrate on Covid and other stuff as many die hard Reuplicans will see a witch hunt and act accordingly,
Just my opinion....
I'm not worried about his nuclear codes, the military know he's not of sound mind and will refuse. He'll probably send the wrong codes anyway.
What did they expect No Goverment in power is gonna want the threat of big tech censoring them and fact labeling their tweets. Goverments are built on lies, slurs & finger pointing. They made their bed.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:38 amTwitter Public Policy
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