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It's an easy mistake to make. When the favourite comes in something will drift but it doesn't mean it will be the 2nd or even 3rd favourite, could be something further down the book. That's why the market overview is so important for seeing what runners are interacting with each other.Bubace wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:50 pmthis is how i try and trade, im always looking at the other runners , or ones i think are going to be relevent to the price movement.
but take a couple of races ago, the favourite priced at 1.86, second 7.6 and ther rest between 18 and 1000, im sitting thinking that if this favourite comes in the second is going to come out, that happens and the favourite ends up coming into 1.62, i lay the second when the move starts, only for the second to start coming in as well and nothing else seems to be moving? its still all a mystery to me im afraid
TraderFred wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:25 pmI was only having a bit of fun, Morbius. It was just a little play on the famous “dogs playing poker” painting. Like you say I don’t understand the game at all, though I’m sure it was very difficult back then, and only the sharpest minds could make a living at it. I’d like to apologise if I have offended you, or any of the poker playing dogs from the painting.Morbius wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:42 pmTrader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:40 pm
You know I was only yesterday thinking exactly the same thing!
sorry mate, that reply was for Trader Fred but sod it....I can't be arsed anymore
I have to say though, I would have expected a top poker champion like yourself to have kept a much cooler head. I didn’t think you would be so easily riled.
I wasn't riled so its OK and no apology needed, I thought you were trolling along with the other guy and that does kind of wind me up a bit when I am on this forum for legitimate reasons to engage with people and learn and if possible to pass on my own knowledge and experience because that's how we escape the 9/5. There are a lot of bad eggs on all forums and I don't know who is who yet.
As for "poker champion" well I had to laugh at that as you clearly don't know much about poker do you Calling someone a poker champion is like calling someone a trading champion. Poker is basically split in half between tournament poker which is more marketable for TV and where you see the big prize money and cash games. Well I play cash games so you are largely anonymous unless of course you just happen to have written for numerous poker magazines down the years and been sponsored by several card rooms then you are a little bit more well known
As for my choice of poker.....well lets just say that some years ago I invented the term "tournaments for show, cash games for dough" because if you wanted consistent income then you had to play cash games. For traders who think horseracing markets are volatile, they ought to try playing short handed Pot Limit Omaha or Tournament poker for a living
And that term was mine about cash games for dough because I nicked it from Bobby George who used to say "trebles for show, doubles for dough" but others re-nicked it
So no.....I am not a poker "champion"......just a very profitable one
i'll open this as well and give it a go see if it helpsTrader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:37 pmIt's an easy mistake to make. When the favourite comes in something will drift but it doesn't mean it will be the 2nd or even 3rd favourite, could be something further down the book. That's why the market overview is so important for seeing what runners are interacting with each other.Bubace wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:50 pmthis is how i try and trade, im always looking at the other runners , or ones i think are going to be relevent to the price movement.
but take a couple of races ago, the favourite priced at 1.86, second 7.6 and ther rest between 18 and 1000, im sitting thinking that if this favourite comes in the second is going to come out, that happens and the favourite ends up coming into 1.62, i lay the second when the move starts, only for the second to start coming in as well and nothing else seems to be moving? its still all a mystery to me im afraid
not half a lot to keep an eye on though
kinda lost myself also (i.e. failed humourous response). BUT, speaking of being lost, this certainly doesn't fail, especially on a friday night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43qB9FpfCR8
There hasn't been any posts removed from this thread or any other in recent weeksThe Silk Run wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:36 pmPossibly for the well being of all the beautiful angels that use this platform ....
sorry quick question about the market overviewTrader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:37 pmIt's an easy mistake to make. When the favourite comes in something will drift but it doesn't mean it will be the 2nd or even 3rd favourite, could be something further down the book. That's why the market overview is so important for seeing what runners are interacting with each other.Bubace wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:50 pmthis is how i try and trade, im always looking at the other runners , or ones i think are going to be relevent to the price movement.
but take a couple of races ago, the favourite priced at 1.86, second 7.6 and ther rest between 18 and 1000, im sitting thinking that if this favourite comes in the second is going to come out, that happens and the favourite ends up coming into 1.62, i lay the second when the move starts, only for the second to start coming in as well and nothing else seems to be moving? its still all a mystery to me im afraid
whats the risk meter? and whats it refering too? calculating?
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You can use the micro charts as well if you just want a quick glance at the overall market. Market Overview though is a bit clearer.
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Here you goBubace wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:16 pmsorry quick question about the market overviewTrader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:37 pmIt's an easy mistake to make. When the favourite comes in something will drift but it doesn't mean it will be the 2nd or even 3rd favourite, could be something further down the book. That's why the market overview is so important for seeing what runners are interacting with each other.Bubace wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:50 pmthis is how i try and trade, im always looking at the other runners , or ones i think are going to be relevent to the price movement.
but take a couple of races ago, the favourite priced at 1.86, second 7.6 and ther rest between 18 and 1000, im sitting thinking that if this favourite comes in the second is going to come out, that happens and the favourite ends up coming into 1.62, i lay the second when the move starts, only for the second to start coming in as well and nothing else seems to be moving? its still all a mystery to me im afraid
whats the risk meter? and whats it refering too? calculating?
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/risk_meter.html
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I wasn't riled so its OK and no apology needed, I thought you were trolling along with the other guy and that does kind of wind me up a bit when I am on this forum for legitimate reasons to engage with people and learn and if possible to pass on my own knowledge and experience because that's how we escape the 9/5. There are a lot of bad eggs on all forums and I don't know who is who yet.
As for "poker champion" well I had to laugh at that as you clearly don't know much about poker do you Calling someone a poker champion is like calling someone a trading champion. Poker is basically split in half between tournament poker which is more marketable for TV and where you see the big prize money and cash games. Well I play cash games so you are largely anonymous unless of course you just happen to have written for numerous poker magazines down the years and been sponsored by several card rooms then you are a little bit more well known
As for my choice of poker.....well lets just say that some years ago I invented the term "tournaments for show, cash games for dough" because if you wanted consistent income then you had to play cash games. For traders who think horseracing markets are volatile, they ought to try playing short handed Pot Limit Omaha or Tournament poker for a living
And that term was mine about cash games for dough because I nicked it from Bobby George who used to say "trebles for show, doubles for dough" but others re-nicked it
So no.....I am not a poker "champion"......just a very profitable one
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Correct, Morbius. I don’t know very much about poker.
Which is why you won’t find me on the pokerstars forum, lecturing newbies about where they are going wrong.
I wasn't riled so its OK and no apology needed, I thought you were trolling along with the other guy and that does kind of wind me up a bit when I am on this forum for legitimate reasons to engage with people and learn and if possible to pass on my own knowledge and experience because that's how we escape the 9/5. There are a lot of bad eggs on all forums and I don't know who is who yet.
As for "poker champion" well I had to laugh at that as you clearly don't know much about poker do you Calling someone a poker champion is like calling someone a trading champion. Poker is basically split in half between tournament poker which is more marketable for TV and where you see the big prize money and cash games. Well I play cash games so you are largely anonymous unless of course you just happen to have written for numerous poker magazines down the years and been sponsored by several card rooms then you are a little bit more well known
As for my choice of poker.....well lets just say that some years ago I invented the term "tournaments for show, cash games for dough" because if you wanted consistent income then you had to play cash games. For traders who think horseracing markets are volatile, they ought to try playing short handed Pot Limit Omaha or Tournament poker for a living
And that term was mine about cash games for dough because I nicked it from Bobby George who used to say "trebles for show, doubles for dough" but others re-nicked it
So no.....I am not a poker "champion"......just a very profitable one
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Correct, Morbius. I don’t know very much about poker.
Which is why you won’t find me on the pokerstars forum, lecturing newbies about where they are going wrong.
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Dallas wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:18 pmHere you goBubace wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:16 pmsorry quick question about the market overviewTrader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:37 pm
It's an easy mistake to make. When the favourite comes in something will drift but it doesn't mean it will be the 2nd or even 3rd favourite, could be something further down the book. That's why the market overview is so important for seeing what runners are interacting with each other.
whats the risk meter? and whats it refering too? calculating?
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/risk_meter.html
Green for Go....
I wasn't riled so its OK and no apology needed, I thought you were trolling along with the other guy and that does kind of wind me up a bit when I am on this forum for legitimate reasons to engage with people and learn and if possible to pass on my own knowledge and experience because that's how we escape the 9/5. There are a lot of bad eggs on all forums and I don't know who is who yet.
As for "poker champion" well I had to laugh at that as you clearly don't know much about poker do you Calling someone a poker champion is like calling someone a trading champion. Poker is basically split in half between tournament poker which is more marketable for TV and where you see the big prize money and cash games. Well I play cash games so you are largely anonymous unless of course you just happen to have written for numerous poker magazines down the years and been sponsored by several card rooms then you are a little bit more well known
As for my choice of poker.....well lets just say that some years ago I invented the term "tournaments for show, cash games for dough" because if you wanted consistent income then you had to play cash games. For traders who think horseracing markets are volatile, they ought to try playing short handed Pot Limit Omaha or Tournament poker for a living
And that term was mine about cash games for dough because I nicked it from Bobby George who used to say "trebles for show, doubles for dough" but others re-nicked it
So no.....I am not a poker "champion"......just a very profitable one
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Correct, Morbius. I don’t know very much about poker.
Which is why you won’t find me on the pokerstars forum, lecturing newbies about where they are going wrong.
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Don't try being a smart arse mate and concentrate on bringing quality to the forum and less on being a knob
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Nobody could ever out smart you, Morbius.
I will go and work on some quality content for the forum. Like pointing out that London is further than 50 miles away from Sheffield. Vital knowledge for any new aspiring trader.
I will go and work on some quality content for the forum. Like pointing out that London is further than 50 miles away from Sheffield. Vital knowledge for any new aspiring trader.