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Kai wrote:
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Have you seen The Terminal with Tom Hanks :D Perhaps worth a rewatch after this.

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A top quality Kai creation. :D
Just been reading this BBC blurb about Novak's comments. He appears to be as mad as a hatter.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59897918
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greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:36 pm
A top quality Kai creation. :D
Just been reading this BBC blurb about Novak's comments. He appears to be as mad as a hatter.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59897918
Not mine, saw it elsewhere and felt it relevant enough to post :)

Dejan Lovren is very similar, he's a big fan of David Icke and not in a good way ;)
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greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:36 pm
Kai wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:00 pm
gazuty wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:00 am
6CFA5C1C-DFFA-4DB6-BAE7-BCDFEBE3DB08.jpeg
Have you seen The Terminal with Tom Hanks :D Perhaps worth a rewatch after this.

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A top quality Kai creation. :D
Just been reading this BBC blurb about Novak's comments. He appears to be as mad as a hatter.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59897918
He would have to be to marry that fruit loop.
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Be interesting how Djokovic's form develops, if he gets the green light
I'd be very keen to lay the guy at anything under 3.00

Djokovic seems to resent the love Rafa and Roger gets compared to him
It's why he started his stomach churning celebration at the end of matches.....he just wants to be loved

If he plays, he'll get booed
He'll hate that
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LeTiss wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:04 pm
Be interesting how Djokovic's form develops, if he gets the green light
I'd be very keen to lay the guy at anything under 3.00

Djokovic seems to resent the love Rafa and Roger gets compared to him
It's why he started his stomach churning celebration at the end of matches.....he just wants to be loved

If he plays, he'll get booed
He'll hate that
I think you're right. He's brittle. Perhaps this is how these guys reach excellence. They are obsessive about winning. They craft their image to maximise support when they play. It's another percentage in their favour.
Novak has messed up badly on this. If he plays in Oz the reaction will be informative to how much damage he has done to his image.
Personally, I'm conflicted. Novak has been a sporting god for me. But I'd say he's lost the plot on this.
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I've always thought Novak was a fruit loop. I've posted this before but worth another look especially when trying to understand why people believe what they believe.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/05/novak- ... nce-babble

If he does play I fancy him to win. Apart from Medvedev I don't see anyone that can challenge him so it would be a matter of how much the lack of preparation and time on court combined with the negative reaction from the crowd effect his game and state of mind.
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Novak still 2.92. Can't be right, what is brewing?
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greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:48 pm
Novak still 2.92. Can't be right, what is brewing?
All bets on him will be void if he does 't start and there's quite a slack overround.
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:06 pm
greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:48 pm
Novak still 2.92. Can't be right, what is brewing?
All bets on him will be void if he does 't start and there's quite a slack overround.
Not slack enough imv. The back side is at 114% but Novak accounts for 35%, then you have 50 or so runners at 1,000, brings the back book to around 75% without Novak. Even splitting Novak's book % 50/50 given the chance he may/may not play, still makes it a 90%ish book. Crazy market.

My view is lots of people are laying everything with green books. If Djokovic doesn't play and bets on him are void, they will be left with huge reds that exceed their exposure limit, potentially another Vola La Vadette situation. Hope I'm wrong.
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LeTiss wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:04 pm
Be interesting how Djokovic's form develops, if he gets the green light
I'd be very keen to lay the guy at anything under 3.00

Djokovic seems to resent the love Rafa and Roger gets compared to him
It's why he started his stomach churning celebration at the end of matches.....he just wants to be loved

If he plays, he'll get booed
He'll hate that
Glad to see you back posting again LeTiss, sure have missed your witty one line interventions :D

and to paraphrase what you once said to Jeff after one of his short breaks "Facebooks (or Twitter in your case) is for girls, not hairy chested men" ;)
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Craig88 wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:11 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:06 pm
greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:48 pm
Novak still 2.92. Can't be right, what is brewing?
All bets on him will be void if he does 't start and there's quite a slack overround.
Not slack enough imv. The back side is at 114% but Novak accounts for 35%, then you have 50 or so runners at 1,000, brings the back book to around 75% without Novak. Even splitting Novak's book % 50/50 given the chance he may/may not play, still makes it a 90%ish book. Crazy market.

My view is lots of people are laying everything with green books. If Djokovic doesn't play and bets on him are void, they will be left with huge reds that exceed their exposure limit, potentially another Vola La Vadette situation. Hope I'm wrong.
With horse racing, Betfair usually, or at least used to, remove liability offset when there was uncertainty about the participation of a key runner. I'm surprised they haven't done it with Djokovic unlikely to take part. There's always a few who get caught out with huge reds.
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:51 pm
Craig88 wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:11 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:06 pm


All bets on him will be void if he does 't start and there's quite a slack overround.
Not slack enough imv. The back side is at 114% but Novak accounts for 35%, then you have 50 or so runners at 1,000, brings the back book to around 75% without Novak. Even splitting Novak's book % 50/50 given the chance he may/may not play, still makes it a 90%ish book. Crazy market.

My view is lots of people are laying everything with green books. If Djokovic doesn't play and bets on him are void, they will be left with huge reds that exceed their exposure limit, potentially another Vola La Vadette situation. Hope I'm wrong.
With horse racing, Betfair usually, or at least used to, remove liability offset when there was uncertainty about the participation of a key runner. I'm surprised they haven't done it with Djokovic unlikely to take part. There's always a few who get caught out with huge reds.
Oh I didn't know that. Perhaps they have removed liability offset here? I guess I'm just curious why the market keeps reverting towards 100% on the lay side, if Djokovic doesn't take part the layers are effectively laying a 65% book, for huge sums too.
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Craig88 wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:43 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:51 pm
Craig88 wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:11 pm


Not slack enough imv. The back side is at 114% but Novak accounts for 35%, then you have 50 or so runners at 1,000, brings the back book to around 75% without Novak. Even splitting Novak's book % 50/50 given the chance he may/may not play, still makes it a 90%ish book. Crazy market.

My view is lots of people are laying everything with green books. If Djokovic doesn't play and bets on him are void, they will be left with huge reds that exceed their exposure limit, potentially another Vola La Vadette situation. Hope I'm wrong.
With horse racing, Betfair usually, or at least used to, remove liability offset when there was uncertainty about the participation of a key runner. I'm surprised they haven't done it with Djokovic unlikely to take part. There's always a few who get caught out with huge reds.
Oh I didn't know that. Perhaps they have removed liability offset here? I guess I'm just curious why the market keeps reverting towards 100% on the lay side, if Djokovic doesn't take part the layers are effectively laying a 65% book, for huge sums too.
When they (used to) do that they had a note in the rules explaining it (they also do it for large field handicaps where horses don't make the cut), but there's no such mention of it for the Australian Open.
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I wonder if Novak fancies a trip to Nauru whilst he waits for his appeal?

Another player has had their visa cancelled.
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Follow it here.

https://www.comcourts.gov.au/file/Feder ... 22/actions

Should also be able to watch proceedings on Microsoft Teams.
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