Do you always get the best available price on Betdaq?

[ForFolksSake]

Thanks for looking into this. It is much appreciated.

I do have a theory as to what might be happening, but have no easy way to test it. But, perhaps it could be an idea worth putting to your technical team?

It feels like perhaps I'm only getting matched against offers that have remained static during the bet placement delay period. So when offers towards the top of the ladder are rapidly fluctuating (as they would towards the end of a horse race), then by the time my 1.01 back hits the market following the one-sec delay, it often gets matched further down the ladder where offers are more stable. This would also explain the anomalies I saw on the slower-moving in-play football that I posted above.

Shocked it's taken you so long to work that out

[jamesedwards]

Dare I say it, , today suddenly everything is matching as expected.

[Betdaq]

Dare I say it, , today suddenly everything is matching as expected.

Nothing changed on our side. I will have a chat with Peter.

[jamesedwards]

Dare I say it, , today suddenly everything is matching as expected.

Nothing changed on our side. I will have a chat with Peter.

Any further update on this please Enda?

Overall it's continued to be better since my last post but still some way off 100% and goes through phases where I get 1.01 every time despite better prices being readily available.

[jamesedwards]

Curragh 14:50

£100 back bet on Amazon Lady at 1.05. Fully matched at only 1.11 despite plenty of money available at multiple prices all the way up to 1.85, at the point where the bet hit and for some time afterwards.

The bet detail is interesting.

• £100 placed and £0 matched. Why would £0 be matched initially?

• £0.85 matched at 1.81. Why would only 85p be matched?

• £99.15 matched at 1.1. How would this be matched at only 1.1?

Bet detail screenshot:

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Video:

Curragh example (online-video-cutter.com).mp4

Hope this detailed example helps you get to the bottom of all this.

[ForFolksSake]

Curragh 14:50

£100 back bet on Amazon Lady at 1.05. Fully matched at only 1.11 despite plenty of money available at multiple prices all the way up to 1.85, at the point where the bet hit and for some time afterwards.

The bet detail is interesting.

• £100 placed and £0 matched. Why would £0 be matched initially?

• £0.85 matched at 1.81. Why would only 85p be matched?

• £99.15 matched at 1.1. How would this be matched at only 1.1?

Bet detail screenshot:
z20.PNG


Video:
Curragh example (online-video-cutter.com).mp4


Hope this detailed example helps you get to the bottom of all this.

Amazon Lady won unchallenged, 2nd horse Greek Flower didn't trouble the winner
Looks like LAY money was taken off the table before it could be matched
Can't see anything wrong with that.

[jamesedwards]

Curragh 14:50

£100 back bet on Amazon Lady at 1.05. Fully matched at only 1.11 despite plenty of money available at multiple prices all the way up to 1.85, at the point where the bet hit and for some time afterwards.

The bet detail is interesting.

• £100 placed and £0 matched. Why would £0 be matched initially?

• £0.85 matched at 1.81. Why would only 85p be matched?

• £99.15 matched at 1.1. How would this be matched at only 1.1?

Bet detail screenshot:
z20.PNG


Video:
Curragh example (online-video-cutter.com).mp4


Hope this detailed example helps you get to the bottom of all this.

Amazon Lady won unchallenged, 2nd horse Greek Flower didn't trouble the winner
Looks like LAY money was taken off the table before it could be matched
Can't see anything wrong with that.

The bet was made some way out. At the point where the bet hit the market, and for some time afterwards, there was plenty of money available at multiple prices all the way up to 1.85.

Watch the video and you'll see the problem.

z22.PNG

[ForFolksSake]

Curragh 14:50

£100 back bet on Amazon Lady at 1.05. Fully matched at only 1.11 despite plenty of money available at multiple prices all the way up to 1.85, at the point where the bet hit and for some time afterwards.

The bet detail is interesting.

• £100 placed and £0 matched. Why would £0 be matched initially?

• £0.85 matched at 1.81. Why would only 85p be matched?

• £99.15 matched at 1.1. How would this be matched at only 1.1?

Bet detail screenshot:
z20.PNG


Video:
Curragh example (online-video-cutter.com).mp4


Hope this detailed example helps you get to the bottom of all this.

Amazon Lady won unchallenged, 2nd horse Greek Flower didn't trouble the winner
Looks like LAY money was taken off the table before it could be matched
Can't see anything wrong with that.

The bet was made some way out. At the point where the bet hit the market, and for some time afterwards, there was plenty of money available at multiple prices all the way up to 1.85.

Watch the video and you'll see the problem.

z22.PNG

Amazon Lady led all the way and won unchallenged
The money available at 45sec to back on Amazon Lady doesn't make sense.
There's less money available to back on Legal Nymph and it was going backwards compared to Amazon Lady

[Betdaq]

Hi James. We are really struggling to troubleshoot this issue. Is it possible to send a video of the site and BA side by side. IR markets at this stage are very volatile and it is very difficult for the team to investigate. We are not disputing what you are seeing here but we are just reaching a dead end.

[Emmson]

A most extraordinary email I received from Betdaq today, at least extraordinary to me as I've never been questioned like this before.

Dear Liam​,
 
We are emailing you today with regards your activity on the exchange. 

Could you explain the strategy you employ when trading on BETDAQ?

Would you be able to give some more context to some of the bets you placed on your account?

Could you send us on the corresponding bet(s) placed on Coto La Caza in the 19:15 at Lingfield on the 29th of June 2024?

Could you send us on the corresponding bet(s) placed on Ruff Justice in the 14:20 at Yarmouth on the 28th of June 2024?

Could you send us on the corresponding bet(s) placed on C'mon Pompey in the 16:00 at Newmarket on the 27th of June 2024?

Please respond to this email at your earliest convenience. 
 
Kind Regards
 
​Billy
 
BETDAQ Commercial Team

EXPLAIN YOURSELF BETDAQ?

[Euler]

I don't understand what they are asking for?

[Emmson]

I don't understand what they are asking for?

Just looked at those 3 markets and what I was did looks very simple to understand. In any case I will not respond as I don't appreciate the terseness of the email.

[Betdaq]

Hi. This is actually one of the easier issues for me to solve. You're classed as a matched bettor and you are on 0%.

We need to police the 0% promotion to ensure customers are matched betting.

Id assume you transitioned from matched betting over the years and into trading.

Happy to answer any questions but hopefully that makes sense?

[Emmson]

Hi. This is actually one of the easier issues for me to solve. You're classed as a matched bettor and you are on 0%.
the 0% promotion to ensure customers are matched betting.

Id assume you transitioned from matched betting over the years and into trading.

Happy to answer any questions but hopefully that makes sense?

INTERESTING!

I may actually respond to the email now I know this.

[Betdaq]

Hi. This is actually one of the easier issues for me to solve. You're classed as a matched bettor and you are on 0%.
the 0% promotion to ensure customers are matched betting.

Id assume you transitioned from matched betting over the years and into trading.

Happy to answer any questions but hopefully that makes sense?

INTERESTING!

I may actually respond to the email now I know this.

Realistically you will be removed from the promotion as you're not matched betting.