Betfair have scrapped the Premium Charge

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Euler
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Come the new year the Premium charge will be no more and a new expert fee will replace it. More information: -

https://www.betangel.com/betfair-scrap-premium-charge/

https://support.betfair.com/app/answers ... t-fee-faqs
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MemphisFlash
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is this the christmas present from the santa video?
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jamesedwards
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A jolly good Christmas present!

This should make a big difference to traded volumes. Will encourage people back in. 8-)
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Kai
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Peter you have outdone yourself 👏
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Kai
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Kai wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:35 pm
Maybe one last for the road 🎅

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Throwback to this Xmas wish post a few years back, ACTUALLY came true 😂 😇
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LeTiss
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Absolutely perfect for traders like me.....people who have been on BF since the early days, who have earned a steady income, but not a fortune. The lifetime profits were killing off the likes of me. It's only my sheer bloody mindedness that kept me going
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Euler
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LeTiss wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:33 pm
Absolutely perfect for traders like me.....people who have been on BF since the early days, who have earned a steady income, but not a fortune. The lifetime profits were killing off the likes of me. It's only my sheer bloody mindedness that kept me going
I think it's a really important point, one that I've been keen to push to Betfair during this process.
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Kai
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Well I really hoped there wouldn’t be a catch with such a positive title on the video

But still better than nothing
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Naffman
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Seems good, is the first 25k you earn Fee free then and 20% on that earnt between 25-100? So someone earning £110k for example will only pay for 10k at 40%?
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Euler
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It takes large amounts of people out of the former PC altogether and reduces any additional payment for most existing payers.

More importantly there is no lifetime limit anymore, so that's a massive positive.

Obviously not everybody can pay reduced fees, but it's massive step forward and should encourage more activity in the markets.
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Naffman
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Just going through it now, it seems if you earn above but close to £100k then you may as well have a couple of months off and get it down to below £100k so you pay only 20% instead of 40%

Obviously this will bring in players who gave up due to PC when earning £25kish a year but the bigger earners will probably pay a bit more due to implied commission going from 3 to 2.5%.

Overall I think it’s a good idea to bring people back and it especially rewards people who’ve given up as they’ll be on no Fees for a few months.
BFDon
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Naffman wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:49 pm
Seems good, is the first 25k you earn Fee free then and 20% on that earnt between 25-100? So someone earning £110k for example will only pay for 10k at 40%?
Looks as if it's only one rate, so you're better off earning 100k than 133k....

I can see why they've done it but moving implied commission from 3% to 2.5% is actually going to make >100k PA 40% PC payers on 2% worse off
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Kai
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So in other words only players averaging below £68 daily will avoid PC entirely.

But for those averaging over £274 daily very little actually changes. Which still feels like a lot of people I think.
weemac
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Measuring on a rolling basis means that your weekly charges could be highly variable if you're hovering around one of the 2 thresholds?
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