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Naffman
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Hamilton 1.44
O'Sullivan 8.2
Fury 9.2
Henderson 12.5
Doyle 30
Broad 280
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Naffman
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Think Hamilton worthy fav but wouldn't touch him at them odds...O'Sullivan seems to get nominated every year and got knocked out in 2nd round of UK Champs just recently...Fury probably the best achievement but was all the way back in Feb and will BBC let him win...Henderson was a good player with Liverpool winning the PL but surely had to do more...Doyle wouldn't be there if she wasn't female but probably looks the value...Broad no one gives a shit about cricket unless it's the ashes.
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I see Fury is asking to be removed from the list
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LeTiss wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:52 pm
I see Fury is asking to be removed from the list
Remember he really looked pissed off last year, looked like he got messed around a bit.
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LeTiss wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:52 pm
I see Fury is asking to be removed from the list
https://youtu.be/QMX83MXp_Yc
jamesedwards
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Hamilton appears to be almost universally hated in this country. I just can't see how he can win. But then you look at what he's up against. Such a weak line-up. Fury was my choice and now he's pretty much taken himself out of the running.
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jamesedwards wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:01 pm
Hamilton appears to be almost universally hated in this country. I just can't see how he can win. But then you look at what he's up against. Such a weak line-up. Fury was my choice and now he's pretty much taken himself out of the running.
Universally hated in ths country?

You have got to be f***ing kidding.

The guy is brilliant.
Imagine a season with Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton.

Pick your winner from that lot.
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:05 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:01 pm
Hamilton appears to be almost universally hated in this country. I just can't see how he can win. But then you look at what he's up against. Such a weak line-up. Fury was my choice and now he's pretty much taken himself out of the running.
Universally hated in ths country?

You have got to be f***ing kidding.

The guy is brilliant.
Imagine a season with Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton.

Pick your winner from that lot.
I think it's the personality that people hate, not the undoubted racing ability.
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Tuco
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:05 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:01 pm
Hamilton appears to be almost universally hated in this country. I just can't see how he can win. But then you look at what he's up against. Such a weak line-up. Fury was my choice and now he's pretty much taken himself out of the running.
Universally hated in ths country?

You have got to be f***ing kidding.

The guy is brilliant.
Imagine a season with Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton.

Pick your winner from that lot.
...problem is, he's winning in the fastest car and for all the years of his career (except 2009-2013) he has been driving the fastest car, so it's not a level playing field - bit like winning a footie championship where you're allowed 12 players per match against just 11 for the opposition or your oppositions goal is a foot wider and a foot taller.

If Verstappen or Ricciardo were in a Mercedes we would then see who was better - Bottas is just an average driver in the fastest car so makes Hamilton look very special. Rosberg was much more of a challenge to Hamilton. How do you think Hamilton would do if he were currently driving the Ferrari? (clue - not winning!).

In 2009 to 2013 Hamilton wasn't driving the fastest car and as such didn't win the Championship in any of those years. In 2013 Vettel won the final 9 races in a row so much better was his car. Only with the new rules did Hamilton in 2014 start to rack up the wins and Championships again after 2008. Hamilton has benefitted from #BlackPrivilege throughout his career. Hamilton is a very good driver driving by far the best car, so very hard to determine his greatness. Would he win in a Haas? No How about an AlphaTouri.? No? etc...
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:05 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:01 pm
Hamilton appears to be almost universally hated in this country. I just can't see how he can win. But then you look at what he's up against. Such a weak line-up. Fury was my choice and now he's pretty much taken himself out of the running.
Universally hated in ths country?

You have got to be f***ing kidding.

The guy is brilliant.
Imagine a season with Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton.

Pick your winner from that lot.
Every F1 fan I know hates Hamilton, they think he's a good driver but just can't stand his personality...and I agree such a weak line-up if he doesn't win this year he never will...not like he'd/anyone would be too bothered.
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