RANT CORNER

[greenmark]

Looks like the single person council tax reduction is going to be scrapped.

That will go down well, not!!!

But for sure if this goes through Labour will lose a swathe of support.

They are not bothered, they'll get it back when they reduce the voting age to 16.
What are the going to do , threaten to leave the country like the other rich so and so's .
Could cost some old geezer living on their own about £750 - that's the rich pensioners paying top council tax of over £3K. Don't feel too sorry for them - they wont miss it

What are the people hurt by this going to do?
Vote against Labour or any council that introduces it at local elections and then again at the next GE.
But you could be right.Too many people can't get a roof over their head at reasonable cost. So they will all be totally indifferent to this.
That can't yet be blamed on the current Labour govt. 14 years vs 2 months. Or as you said 27 years. Blair and Brown do bear some responsibilty. The list of PM's since those two is a catalogue of imcompetent, self-centred idiots (or Truss's as I now refer to idiots). Clegg and the Lib Dems also bear responsibility for hopping into a Tory coalition and betrayed their supporters.
This is politics. Politicians make decisions and we hold them to account.....er.....every few years...if we can remember what they did several years ago.

[Archery1969]

What was the point of GB Energy ?

The government has just granted/sold 9 more private contracts for offshore wind farms.

Of course they got loads of bids as they removed the minimum price cap by 66%.

Based on the above then you won’t see lower prices and if you do then it won’t be for 20 years until the private companies have offset their costs and shareholder dividends.

I thought GB Energy were going to be publicly owned, employing thousands to build the turbines and install them ?

WTF!!!!

we simply don't have the necessary engineers in the uk to design, manufacture and install wind farms (both on and off shore) at any kind of scale.
we don't produce enough engineers in all disciplines.

the government as no choice if they want to build wind farms on scale they need engineers from somewhere.

Agreed. But that's not how it was sold to the public before the election. Allot of people, stupidly, thought their bills would be coming down within this parliament. Problem is, it wont be this parliament, more like the parliament in 20 years time, if their lucky.

[ForFolksSake]

But for sure if this goes through Labour will lose a swathe of support.

They are not bothered, they'll get it back when they reduce the voting age to 16.
What are the going to do , threaten to leave the country like the other rich so and so's .
Could cost some old geezer living on their own about £750 - that's the rich pensioners paying top council tax of over £3K. Don't feel too sorry for them - they wont miss it

What are the people hurt by this going to do?
Vote against Labour or any council that introduces it at local elections and then again at the next GE.

Who are they going to vote for ? - Conservatives
Labour are coming after pensioners big time - Capital Gains Tax and Inheritance Tax are also on the table.
That's what I call 'Good' shit

[jamesedwards]

But for sure if this goes through Labour will lose a swathe of support.

They are not bothered, they'll get it back when they reduce the voting age to 16.
What are the going to do , threaten to leave the country like the other rich so and so's .
Could cost some old geezer living on their own about £750 - that's the rich pensioners paying top council tax of over £3K. Don't feel too sorry for them - they wont miss it

What are the people hurt by this going to do?
Vote against Labour or any council that introduces it at local elections and then again at the next GE.
But you could be right.Too many people can't get a roof over their head at reasonable cost. So they will all be totally indifferent to this.
That can't yet be blamed on the current Labour govt. 14 years vs 2 months. Or as you said 27 years. Blair and Brown do bear some responsibilty. The list of PM's since those two is a catalogue of imcompetent, self-centred idiots (or Truss's as I now refer to idiots). Clegg and the Lib Dems also bear responsibility for hopping into a Tory coalition and betrayed their supporters.
This is politics. Politicians make decisions and we hold them to account.....er.....every few years...if we can remember what they did several years ago.

Council tax pays for all the local support networks; social services, education, roads, waste, fire, police etc. Surely it would be fairer to charge per person rather than per household? Perhaps some sort of poll tax could be in order?

[Archery1969]

Looks like the single person council tax reduction is going to be scrapped.

That will go down well, not!!!

But for sure if this goes through Labour will lose a swathe of support.

They are not bothered, they'll get it back when they reduce the voting age to 16.
What are they going to do , threaten to leave the country like the other rich so and so's .
Could cost some old geezer living on their own about £750 - that's the rich pensioners paying top council tax of over £3K. Don't feel too sorry for them - they wont miss it

Well, there is something they can do. Put the council tax bill in the bin, refuse to pay. Courts would soon become overwhelmed. And we all know there are no prison or Police cell places available.

For me, it looks like Labour have started digging a hole which they might find themselves in come the winter.

[Archery1969]

They are not bothered, they'll get it back when they reduce the voting age to 16.
What are the going to do , threaten to leave the country like the other rich so and so's .
Could cost some old geezer living on their own about £750 - that's the rich pensioners paying top council tax of over £3K. Don't feel too sorry for them - they wont miss it

What are the people hurt by this going to do?
Vote against Labour or any council that introduces it at local elections and then again at the next GE.
But you could be right.Too many people can't get a roof over their head at reasonable cost. So they will all be totally indifferent to this.
That can't yet be blamed on the current Labour govt. 14 years vs 2 months. Or as you said 27 years. Blair and Brown do bear some responsibilty. The list of PM's since those two is a catalogue of imcompetent, self-centred idiots (or Truss's as I now refer to idiots). Clegg and the Lib Dems also bear responsibility for hopping into a Tory coalition and betrayed their supporters.
This is politics. Politicians make decisions and we hold them to account.....er.....every few years...if we can remember what they did several years ago.

Council tax pays for all the local support networks; social services, education, roads, waste, fire, police etc. Surely it would be fairer to charge per person rather than per household? Perhaps some sort of poll tax could be in order?

Didn't the UK have riots over the poll tax ?

Difference this time is you wouldn't be able to lock them up.

[jamesedwards]

What are the people hurt by this going to do?
Vote against Labour or any council that introduces it at local elections and then again at the next GE.
But you could be right.Too many people can't get a roof over their head at reasonable cost. So they will all be totally indifferent to this.
That can't yet be blamed on the current Labour govt. 14 years vs 2 months. Or as you said 27 years. Blair and Brown do bear some responsibilty. The list of PM's since those two is a catalogue of imcompetent, self-centred idiots (or Truss's as I now refer to idiots). Clegg and the Lib Dems also bear responsibility for hopping into a Tory coalition and betrayed their supporters.
This is politics. Politicians make decisions and we hold them to account.....er.....every few years...if we can remember what they did several years ago.

Council tax pays for all the local support networks; social services, education, roads, waste, fire, police etc. Surely it would be fairer to charge per person rather than per household? Perhaps some sort of poll tax could be in order?

Didn't the UK have riots over the poll tax ?

Difference this time is you wouldn't be able to lock them up.

Easy solution. Keir could simply release all the new ultra-far-right racist rioters from prison to make way for the new ultra-even-further-far-right poll tax rioters.

[ForFolksSake]

But for sure if this goes through Labour will lose a swathe of support.

They are not bothered, they'll get it back when they reduce the voting age to 16.
What are they going to do , threaten to leave the country like the other rich so and so's .
Could cost some old geezer living on their own about £750 - that's the rich pensioners paying top council tax of over £3K. Don't feel too sorry for them - they wont miss it

Well, there is something they can do. Put the council tax bill in the bin, refuse to pay. Courts would soon become overwhelmed. And we all know there are no prison or Police cell places available.

For me, it looks like Labour have started digging a hole which they might find themselves in come the winter.

I don't believe it

https://youtu.be/46flaThCYhE

[greenmark]

They are not bothered, they'll get it back when they reduce the voting age to 16.
What are they going to do , threaten to leave the country like the other rich so and so's .
Could cost some old geezer living on their own about £750 - that's the rich pensioners paying top council tax of over £3K. Don't feel too sorry for them - they wont miss it

Well, there is something they can do. Put the council tax bill in the bin, refuse to pay. Courts would soon become overwhelmed. And we all know there are no prison or Police cell places available.

For me, it looks like Labour have started digging a hole which they might find themselves in come the winter.

I don't believe it

https://youtu.be/46flaThCYhE

That is what quality ranting looks like.
Jeez. It's exhausting!!

[Archery1969]

Council tax pays for all the local support networks; social services, education, roads, waste, fire, police etc. Surely it would be fairer to charge per person rather than per household? Perhaps some sort of poll tax could be in order?

Didn't the UK have riots over the poll tax ?

Difference this time is you wouldn't be able to lock them up.

Easy solution. Keir could simply release all the new ultra-far-right racist rioters from prison to make way for the new ultra-even-further-far-right poll tax rioters.

[Archery1969]

Let’s hope the online rumours about 11th November are untrue. Otherwise Sir Keir could go down in history as the most unpopular PM ever by the armed forces.

[greenmark]

Didn't the UK have riots over the poll tax ?

Difference this time is you wouldn't be able to lock them up.

Easy solution. Keir could simply release all the new ultra-far-right racist rioters from prison to make way for the new ultra-even-further-far-right poll tax rioters.

riight, far-right, ultra-far-right suggests some political view. The people being imprisoned seem to be ..... er ....apolitical idiots. Perhaps stirred up by extreme far-right provocateurs that melted away when the cops decided to move in.
But it is a fair point that Hitler's Nazi reign was preceded by economic dire straits where the ordinary guy/gal wanted an answer to their dya to day difficulties.
Not being able to afford Sky is not dire straits. I doubt the majority of those that are affected by our system have the energy to to riot.

[ForFolksSake]

Easy solution. Keir could simply release all the new ultra-far-right racist rioters from prison to make way for the new ultra-even-further-far-right poll tax rioters.

riight, far-right, ultra-far-right suggests some political view. The people being imprisoned seem to be ..... er ....apolitical idiots. Perhaps stirred up by extreme far-right provocateurs that melted away when the cops decided to move in.
But it is a fair point that Hitler's Nazi reign was preceded by economic dire straits where the ordinary guy/gal wanted an answer to their dya to day difficulties.
Not being able to afford Sky is not dire straits. I doubt the majority of those that are affected by our system have the energy to to riot.

It wouldn't take much...

https://time.com/5476534/french-protest ... ul-macron/

[greenmark]

riight, far-right, ultra-far-right suggests some political view. The people being imprisoned seem to be ..... er ....apolitical idiots. Perhaps stirred up by extreme far-right provocateurs that melted away when the cops decided to move in.
But it is a fair point that Hitler's Nazi reign was preceded by economic dire straits where the ordinary guy/gal wanted an answer to their dya to day difficulties.
Not being able to afford Sky is not dire straits. I doubt the majority of those that are affected by our system have the energy to to riot.

It wouldn't take much...

https://time.com/5476534/french-protest ... ul-macron/

The evidence of th last few weeks would seem to suport my view that the rioters were idiots, possiblly lead by agititators. But idiots nontheless. Wearing a face covering is not going to stop you getting nicked for vandalism.

[ForFolksSake]

My ideology was living the 'English' way of life ....

Before 27 years ago.....,.

There is a great documentary on iPlayer called the Bronte Business. It was made in the 1970's and is worth a watch, especially if you like flares.

It is a lamentation on how the world has changed & businesses have invaded a quiet sleepy hollow in Yorkshire. There is even some guy with the obligatory cigarette saying life was much better 30years ago...

Pretty sure his definition of "English way of life" is completely different from yours .

I've even heard some muppets claiming life was better in Victorian times, when the average age of death was 28 in said sleepy hollow...

Anyhow, its worth a watch )

I've seen this in the Lakes. Spring or Autumn are good times to go. Summer? Forget it. Really! Forget it. It's a flipping nightmare. You go there for space and to enjoy the scenery, but the roads, towns and hills are clogged.
.

If it were me I'd get the train there:

Out
05:31 ( London Euston) - 08:42 Oxenholme Lake District

Back
20:43 Oxenholme - 01:17 London Euston

"Let The Train Take The Strain"

https://www.jamesmforrest.co.uk/post/la ... t-by-train