Gambling Review White Paper update

[Derek27]

Lets have a sensible petition that brings the thorny issue of bookie restrictions into the equation as well as affordability checks and I may well sign that.

I don't think it's a good idea to conflate to entirely different issues. There was a petition to force bookies to accept a minimum level of stake, like they've done in Australia, but when I tried to sign it, it was six-months expired and only acquired 176 of the 100,000 votes needed.

[paspuggie48]

Ironic to see who's Constituents have voted most, so far

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[Michael5482]

Ironic to see who's Constituents have voted most, so far


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That's not ironic or surprising in the slightest when there could be potentially local jobs on the line not just in racing and may impact local business on the other hand (without looking) areas with high gambling harm issues will probably have less signatures.

If the Government said were going to bring in legislation for affordability checks on alcohol you'd expect Burton on Trent to be at the top of the signature list as it may effect a large number of jobs in the brewing industry.

[jamesedwards]

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How frequently to you look at that tally, to catch it bang on the thousand?

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[Derek27]

I reckon James is voting multiple times with different email addresses.

[jamesedwards]

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[firlandsfarm]

Lets have a sensible petition that brings the thorny issue of bookie restrictions into the equation as well as affordability checks and I may well sign that.

I'm sorry to say I understand bookie restrictions (and have them!). We as punters are free to decide if we want to bet and if so how much. Bookie restrictions are simply the other side of the coin. Bookies are free to decide if they want to lay the bet and how much they are prepared to cover. I think the question is are they providing a service or a product. What businesses are there that are not allowed to choose who they do business with and for how much?

[paspuggie48]

Ironic to see who's Constituents have voted most, so far


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That's not ironic or surprising in the slightest when there could be potentially local jobs on the line not just in racing and may impact local business on the other hand (without looking) areas with high gambling harm issues will probably have less signatures.

If the Government said were going to bring in legislation for affordability checks on alcohol you'd expect Burton on Trent to be at the top of the signature list as it may effect a large number of jobs in the brewing industry.

Agree, I'd expect any MP to fight for their constituency when it comes to jobs and livelihoods. Ironic was probably the wrong word to use in that context. In fact I actually applauded him after he raised the Affordability Debate recently. It was a good watch ! https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/8 ... n=15:59:20 (select 14:30:11 on the right)

Then again, you could also look at it the other way round and say it is ironic, especially when you read that Covid inquiry hears Matt Hancock wanted to decide who lived and died

[Michael5482]

Ironic to see who's Constituents have voted most, so far


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That's not ironic or surprising in the slightest when there could be potentially local jobs on the line not just in racing and may impact local business on the other hand (without looking) areas with high gambling harm issues will probably have less signatures.

If the Government said were going to bring in legislation for affordability checks on alcohol you'd expect Burton on Trent to be at the top of the signature list as it may effect a large number of jobs in the brewing industry.

Agree, I'd expect any MP to fight for their constituency when it comes to jobs and livelihoods. Ironic was probably the wrong word to use in that context. In fact I actually applauded him after he raised the Affordability Debate recently. It was a good watch ! https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/8 ... n=15:59:20 (select 14:30:11 on the right)

Then again, you could also look at it the other way round and say it is ironic, especially when you read that Covid inquiry hears Matt Hancock wanted to decide who lived and died

Please accept my apologies I misinterpreted the message as I missed Hancock was the MP as the text was to small for me to read and assumed the ironic part was the constituents were areas with stables had the highest amount of signatures (I could see that bit by the colour of the map!) but yes I see the Hancock irony point now you've pointed it out.

[paspuggie48]

That's not ironic or surprising in the slightest when there could be potentially local jobs on the line not just in racing and may impact local business on the other hand (without looking) areas with high gambling harm issues will probably have less signatures.

If the Government said were going to bring in legislation for affordability checks on alcohol you'd expect Burton on Trent to be at the top of the signature list as it may effect a large number of jobs in the brewing industry.

Agree, I'd expect any MP to fight for their constituency when it comes to jobs and livelihoods. Ironic was probably the wrong word to use in that context. In fact I actually applauded him after he raised the Affordability Debate recently. It was a good watch ! https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/8 ... n=15:59:20 (select 14:30:11 on the right)

Then again, you could also look at it the other way round and say it is ironic, especially when you read that Covid inquiry hears Matt Hancock wanted to decide who lived and died

Please accept my apologies I misinterpreted the message as I missed Hancock was the MP as the text was to small for me to read and assumed the ironic part was the constituents were areas with stables had the highest amount of signatures (I could see that bit by the colour of the map!) but yes I see the Hancock irony point now you've pointed it out.

[wearthefoxhat]

It's probably been posted already, here's the petition if anyone still wants to sign it.

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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/649894

[Derek27]

It's probably been posted already, here's the petition if anyone still wants to sign it.


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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/649894

That, in a nutshell, is why we should have stayed in Europe. British politicians are arseholes who just tow the party line when it comes to voting in bills. They don't even bother reading it. We need Euro legislation to reign them in and stop the mindless discrimination.

[Kai]

It's probably been posted already, here's the petition if anyone still wants to sign it.


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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/649894

That, in a nutshell, is why we should have stayed in Europe. British politicians are arseholes who just tow the party line when it comes to voting in bills. They don't even bother reading it. We need Euro legislation to reign them in and stop the mindless discrimination.

That's the main problem with democracies, you can't let the sheeple vote as they are manipulated far too easily, to put it nicely

It's like Osho once eloquently said : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE

Or Winston Churchill : “The best argument against Democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

[wearthefoxhat]

It's probably been posted already, here's the petition if anyone still wants to sign it.


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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/649894

That, in a nutshell, is why we should have stayed in Europe. British politicians are arseholes who just tow the party line when it comes to voting in bills. They don't even bother reading it. We need Euro legislation to reign them in and stop the mindless discrimination.

Even with Euro legislation/control, the British MP's will still be arseholes.

Proven time and time again, the power goes to their heads, and the original reason of representing their constituencies gets lost, as they discover that they are just a warm body in Westminster to be manipulated by the cabinet office and their interests...(not the electorate)

The excellent Yes Minister and then the not too bad follow up, Yes Prime Minister, shows us all we need to know on how things are seen within the halls of Westminster, and that was nearly 40 years ago!

On a seperate note, I'd like to see on-line voting being used in the next 10 to 20 years. The tech is already there, but it doesn't suit the agenda of existing parliament as they know the younger generation are more likely to use it and vote for either Lib-Dems or the Green Party.

[firlandsfarm]

That, in a nutshell, is why we should have stayed in Europe. British politicians are arseholes who just tow the party line when it comes to voting in bills. They don't even bother reading it. We need Euro legislation to reign them in and stop the mindless discrimination.

Except for Independents and the odd rebel all politicians whether British, European or anywhere in the world tow the party line ... especially the EU ones, they don't want to lose the gravy train! Basically EU MP's have to be a member of a big party to become an MEP. Each country has an allocated number of seats in the EP and those seats are allocated to each party in proportion to the number of votes they receive and the party decides who will be an MEP. So if you 'upset' your party the chance of being granted one of the seats is zero! It's probably as undemocratic as a Chinese or Russian election. The European legislation you call for would make MP's of all parties tow the line even more than they do now! Of course if you prefer the undemocratic European system you could always apply to move there ... you probably wouldn't need a work visa!