EU Membership Referendum (Brexit)

[CaerMyrddin]

Thanks for the comprehensive post Darren.

I am with you in many aspects, but not sure if this was the right path to follow.

Maybe this Union isn't working on many aspects, and yes you are right it is money driven, or else Turkey joining the EU would never be on the cards, and a country like Hungary would have been expelled already, but I think that with so much room for improvemnt and upside, it was something worth to fight for.

Well, what is done is done.

Yes, I know nothing against Portugal, you may know that England and Portugal have the oldest standing alliance in the whole world? 100k Brits in the Algarve now (like Lagos I guess?), if you Airbnb there odds are you'll be hosted by a Brit!

Now we rarely feel invaded, but we have a similar culture...

[kerberus]

I think a bunch of kids in a school playground could have held a better debate at times!

I obviously went to a batter skool than you

[Euler]

he's hinting that Dublin will become the hub for businesses operating currently from the UK, that have a logistical need to smoothly negotiate borders across europe without the red tape that is envisaged.

I have a friend over who was setting up an EU division of the hedge fund he runs. He was going to set it up in London but is now flying to Dublin early next week to do it there instead.

[LeTiss]

I have a friend over who was setting up an EU division of the hedge fund he runs. He was going to set it up in London but is now flying to Dublin early next week to do it there instead.

Try telling somebody in Middlesbrough about your friend, I'm sure he'll be sad to hear that

[kerberus]

You're gaen ta trae an' tech middlebger kids English?

[jimibt]

he's hinting that Dublin will become the hub for businesses operating currently from the UK, that have a logistical need to smoothly negotiate borders across europe without the red tape that is envisaged.

I have a friend over who was setting up an EU division of the hedge fund he runs. He was going to set it up in London but is now flying to Dublin early next week to do it there instead.

this is great for dublin's resurgence, at the expense of the uk's ability to now truly offer *all areas access*. maybe we should all be talking post BRexit about Dubiz

[superfrank]

this is great for dublin's resurgence, at the expense of the uk's ability to now truly offer *all areas access*.

you've already had bankers crash the Irish economy once, you sure you want it again?!

[LeTiss]

Yes, I know nothing against Portugal, you may know that England and Portugal have the oldest standing alliance in the whole world? 100k Brits in the Algarve now (like Lagos I guess?), if you Airbnb there odds are you'll be hosted by a Brit!

Now we rarely feel invaded, but we have a similar culture...

In 1981 and 1982, we holidayed in Algarve. My grandad worked for Foster Wheeler and they supplied a contract to a grateful company. One of the kickbacks my grandad got was the use of a beautiful villa (owned by the company MD)in Odiaxere, just outside Lagos for 2 weeks, including a servant (called Antonio funnily enough!). The villa had it's own swimming pool, peach trees, Oranges, it was stunning - I'm not sure the gift/kickback was legal then, let alone now!

However, we used to drive up to this villa, and there would be locals in the same road washing clothes in a river, whilst we were living like kings. If I was Portuguese that would make me pretty angry, especially if those outsiders couldn't speak Portuguese and didn't even need to try, as most accomodating Portuguese people can speak English!

[jimibt]

this is great for dublin's resurgence, at the expense of the uk's ability to now truly offer *all areas access*.

you've already had bankers crash the Irish economy once, you sure you want it again?!

i'd agree that we steer clear of bankers, but do feel that unteathered mobility around europe is the make or break for many small businesses that have a specialist workforce that cannot always be hired/sourced locally. the hassles i can foresee for these types of businesses will put pressure on them to relocate to a community that allows them to function as required.

[LeTiss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lScVfwe-Rp0

Somebody posted this to me this morning - a 'Yes Minister' clip from 1980

Some may think it's still very relevant today

[convoysur-2]

im getting pissed off at all this panic and signing patitions to have another referendum.
britain wanted out,now there out,
no one in europe is crying about it,some people lost money in the markets.no big deal there,but there are no tears from the rest of europe,just alot of noise from british people who will be hurt in there pockets,
theres that old saying,.
be carefull what you ask for .
you just might get it,
so i hope england just wrap it all up soon,and leave.get on with it.
scotland will split.
wales will follow.
northern ireland will probably go back to war,
and lots of people will make and loss fortunes in between,
but im enjoying the back tracking and the drama of it all,
Marc

[jimibt]

still loving the play on words that only the bbc can conjure with aplomb:

No regrexit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_aud ... s/36630879

purleez!!

[vankancisco]

Prolonged uncertainty will just keep adding pressure to the legitimacy of the decision to leave. It turns out Scotland and Northern Ireland could effectively have a veto of sorts, by refusing to cut their ties with the EU through the autonomy they have. The startling fact is there is no feasible plan by the leave team, they seem to feel they can now put things to one side and revisit the way to move forward at a later date. The more they play this tune, the greater the stench of incompetence and decietfullness. If they don't move at a sufficient pace, there's every chance another referendum could be triggered. Politics waits for no one.

[superfrank]

some real rubbish being talked about atm.

re Northern Ireland, there is no way in 1,000 years that NI would vote to leave the UK.

re Scotland, they voted to remain part of the UK, the UK voted to leave the EU. even if they were allowed another referendum they'd have to pledge to join the Euro. Scots won't go for that.

re London, independence?!, yeah good luck with that - the rest of the country would have them on toast in a week.

and to top it all, David Lammy MP proposes that Parliament simply ignores the result!
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics ... 80951.html

[Zenyatta]

Entertaining, this Brexit thing - suddenly labour party PMs all pulled out shanks like hard-core cons in a prison bloc , to knife Corbyn - using the Brexit as an excuse to get rid of him