Different refresh rates on separate accounts

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zanpo
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I am using a free trial for Betangel on 1 Betfair account and 1 paid license on another betfair account. I start 2 instances of Betangel each with these accounts and 200ms refresh rates in Guardian, and a restrict refresh of 300 seconds before the off and 60 seconds after, and if I compare the odds for them, its a huge difference, and the free account refreshes a lot faster that the account with the paid license.
What is going on, I have no idea why this happens.
Please help me, thanks.
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Dallas
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Are you refreshing any markets on a main screen? this will cause a difference if one being done this way while the other is only being refreshed in guardian with other markets.
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jimibt
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this can happen if you are using a betfair account that has no funds in place. Effectively, you end up using the api (via BetAngel/Betfair) that imposes a 10 second delay. This causes all sort of refresh and comparative issues. Fund the test account up to £10 and things should hopefully improve. ALSO (and this is important), ensure that you have completely closred down and opened both instances fresh for the session. I have seen memory issues if an instance is used day after day without being closed and re-opened.
zanpo
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Dallas wrote:Are you refreshing any markets on a main screen? this will cause a difference if one being done this way while the other is only being refreshed in guardian with other markets.
No activity on the main screen, I only monitor the markets through Guardian. Also the main is set up to 200ms.
jimibt wrote:this can happen if you are using a betfair account that has no funds in place. Effectively, you end up using the api (via BetAngel/Betfair) that imposes a 10 second delay. This causes all sort of refresh and comparative issues. Fund the test account up to £10 and things should hopefully improve. ALSO (and this is important), ensure that you have completely closred down and opened both instances fresh for the session. I have seen memory issues if an instance is used day after day without being closed and re-opened.
But the weird thing is that the licensed accounts has funds in it and the practice account has no funds, and still has a better speed. I also closed everything up, restarted the computer and still the same.

I also put a video on Youtube detailing this. The Guardian on the left is the licensed account, and on the right the free trial account, which has a huge speed.


https://youtu.be/DTtuBK6bFiQ
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Dallas
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That looks like you have
zanpo
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Dallas wrote:That looks like you have
I've unchecked the box and still no change.
Tanden
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Hi Zanpo

I would agree with Jimibt and suggest that the problem is because the free trial account has no funds.

You are seeing the prices change faster and interpreting that as better - but they aren't faster - they are just jumping around - because the account isn't funded and/or hasn't had any recent betting activity the price feed isn't consistent.

To find out for sure, try funding the free trial account as suggested by Jimibt.
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jimibt
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Tanden wrote:Hi Zanpo

I would agree with Jimibt and suggest that the problem is because the free trial account has no funds.

You are seeing the prices change faster and interpreting that as better - but they aren't faster - they are just jumping around - because the account isn't funded and/or hasn't had any recent betting activity the price feed isn't consistent.

To find out for sure, try funding the free trial account as suggested by Jimibt.
A funny story (that wasted almost a whole day!). I had an unfunded account that I was testing some automation rules against. I had prepared them against my live account and thought it would be interesting to make some tweaks without affecting the live scenario. Having made 3-4 fairly major tweaks I was getting SOO excited as every single race was greening up with ridiculous amounts of profit. Unable to contain my excitement (at the thought of £125 green up per race), I whipped up my live account in practice mode and copied over the amended rule (not before advising my wife to quit her job of course). Lo and behold, it was many times worse than the original rule in it's returns, barely scraping a fiver out of the odd winning race.

The moral of the story here really is that unfunded accounts act in a weird and wonderful fashion and will mislead you in so many ways. Of course, had they worked in the same fashion, I'd no longer be chatting to you guys, I'd be WELL off (literally!) :D ;)
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