You're not the only one on the nursery slopes...
£20 default trade size... sometimes 2 clicks.
That -£1.30 had spiked to a heartstopping -£13 but I stepped off, took a sip of tea, slowly walked 3 laps round my chair, re-entered the market and thanks to karma, it came all the way back. Otherwise blissfully dull. Even with that spike (they happen) and without the rebound, I'd have broken even(ish) so like you SHR, I'm calling it a good one.
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Well done you.ShaunWhite wrote:You're not the only one on the nursery slopes...
£20 default trade size... sometimes 2 clicks.
That -£1.30 had spiked to a heartstopping -£13 but I stepped off, took a sip of tea, slowly walked 3 laps round my chair, re-entered the market and thanks to karma, it came all the way back. Otherwise blissfully dull. Even with that spike (they happen) and without the rebound, I'd have broken even(ish) so like you SHR, I'm calling it a good one.
Great stuff.
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I love every second of my trading. Everyday I am excited to get out of bed to do this.Halliday wrote:ShaunWhite wrote:Whoa Halliday...that's harsh....and I totally disagree.Halliday wrote: But I honestly can't see you have made any progress
As they say about poker....."5 minutes to learn and a lifetime to master". Trading is the same and everyday is a step forward in one way or another.
Wasn't meant to be harsh .. But if you read the thread from beginning to end there does seem to be an element of SHR deluding himself into thinking he has made progress. And it's not nice to see anyone losing money and believing he's making progress. And doesn't help anyone else starting out . Because surely the "trading journey " doesn't have to be as angst ridden as SHR
Its like watching one of those endless depressing episodes of EastEnders.. And I know the reality for most isn't like that
It should be liberating not all consuming ... There doesn't seem to be any enjoyment in what he does
And if you take out all the "angst, and emotions and over dramatisation . What are you left with ?
Someone Full of contradictions saying he's losing money
I know it means a lot to him but to go through the gamut of emotions he went thru today to trade a bank of £50. Surely that's no way to lead your life . It just seems unnaturally all consuming to him. Which isn't heathy almost an addiction
At the same point I am very scrict and hard on myself as I want to improve and I am serioulsy considering putting in an extra 2/3 hours a day.
Maybe I am not working hard enough...
I love every second of my trading. Everyday I am excited to get out of bed to do this.
At the same point I am very scrict and hard on myself as I want to improve and I am serioulsy considering putting in an extra 2/3 hours a day.
Maybe I am not working hard enough...[/quote][/quote]
Well start showing it in your posts !!
Your trading a £50 bank end off ... You've paid for courses .. Some people in this country can't afford to feed themselves and their families Look Round the world at places like Aleppo, the civil wars in Africa, the number of refugees drowned this year .. And stop being so damn dramatic and selfish about what your doing
All us on here have various amounts of money to trade, we sit in front of a computer,Warm , comfortable , well fed.and click our mouses . With varying degrees of success
Yes it's important to every one of us ... But really please just concentrate on your trades and improving . Rather than telling us about how desperate things are
If it makes you feel the emotions you feel . It's really not for you
At the same point I am very scrict and hard on myself as I want to improve and I am serioulsy considering putting in an extra 2/3 hours a day.
Maybe I am not working hard enough...[/quote][/quote]
Well start showing it in your posts !!
Your trading a £50 bank end off ... You've paid for courses .. Some people in this country can't afford to feed themselves and their families Look Round the world at places like Aleppo, the civil wars in Africa, the number of refugees drowned this year .. And stop being so damn dramatic and selfish about what your doing
All us on here have various amounts of money to trade, we sit in front of a computer,Warm , comfortable , well fed.and click our mouses . With varying degrees of success
Yes it's important to every one of us ... But really please just concentrate on your trades and improving . Rather than telling us about how desperate things are
If it makes you feel the emotions you feel . It's really not for you
- SeaHorseRacing
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Really? I am getting fed up with the constant negativitey.
The title of this topic is Trading Diary- If you research the english dictonairy you will understand that the word diary means- a book on which you record your thoughts or feelings or what has happened each day.
I think this justifys enough reasons for me to express my feelings on each day, this is the whole point of my thread. Addiotionally why would anyone want to read something that had no meaning, feeling or expression.
Just like the newspapers in the shop, if you go to your local newsagents for milk or whatever you dont have to read the papers. This is your choice to read my topic.
You are unbelievably negative mate.
You know people may dislike me people may be irritated by me but seriously I have asnwered all your questions and taking my time to explain trades to you yet you just want to try and wrap me in cotton wool and get me to give up.
I wont be giving up, this is the begning.
It may only £50 but you know what I am proud of myself because I managed to sit at my desk allday knowing I messed up and had no chance of even making a couple of quid.
I started to diarise this 5 days ago and I had 4 profitable days and a loss today. I achieved a personal goal which was to protect my back and stop my urges, yet you seem to think I am not making progress.
Yes I paid for a course, but you know what I got up everyday to work and provide for my family and I took the plunge with some of my savings to try and make a differnce in my life, what is wrong with that?
Its a trading diary not a life story, I dont include my home life, my family life & friends if it appears all dramatic like eastenders dont read it mate.
I am under the impression that you want me to provide this information and diary without the chitchat about my feelings at the same time. Well unfortunately we can not change anything or anyone but ourselves.
What is selfish about my posts, yes its dramatic because I am open enough to understand that this trading game is about yourself, your expressions, your feelings.
There are two pinnacle stages in trading
1) Learning about the markets
2)learning about yourself.
I am working on myself. I genuinly dont mind construtive critisim but it appears we are not there.
If your bothered about people in Aleppo why dont you do something about it. I prefer not to discuss my political opinions on the forum if I can help it.
I am concentrating on my trading, this trading diary is for me to express myslef.
It is not just about the screenshot each day its about, if, how, what, when and why.
Your saying just concentrate on your trades, what do you think I am doing for 99% of my time when I am not typng here...
To be successful at trading you need to be able to relate to Maslows Pyramid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_ ... y_of_needs
The title of this topic is Trading Diary- If you research the english dictonairy you will understand that the word diary means- a book on which you record your thoughts or feelings or what has happened each day.
I think this justifys enough reasons for me to express my feelings on each day, this is the whole point of my thread. Addiotionally why would anyone want to read something that had no meaning, feeling or expression.
Just like the newspapers in the shop, if you go to your local newsagents for milk or whatever you dont have to read the papers. This is your choice to read my topic.
You are unbelievably negative mate.
You know people may dislike me people may be irritated by me but seriously I have asnwered all your questions and taking my time to explain trades to you yet you just want to try and wrap me in cotton wool and get me to give up.
I wont be giving up, this is the begning.
It may only £50 but you know what I am proud of myself because I managed to sit at my desk allday knowing I messed up and had no chance of even making a couple of quid.
I started to diarise this 5 days ago and I had 4 profitable days and a loss today. I achieved a personal goal which was to protect my back and stop my urges, yet you seem to think I am not making progress.
Yes I paid for a course, but you know what I got up everyday to work and provide for my family and I took the plunge with some of my savings to try and make a differnce in my life, what is wrong with that?
Its a trading diary not a life story, I dont include my home life, my family life & friends if it appears all dramatic like eastenders dont read it mate.
I am under the impression that you want me to provide this information and diary without the chitchat about my feelings at the same time. Well unfortunately we can not change anything or anyone but ourselves.
What is selfish about my posts, yes its dramatic because I am open enough to understand that this trading game is about yourself, your expressions, your feelings.
There are two pinnacle stages in trading
1) Learning about the markets
2)learning about yourself.
I am working on myself. I genuinly dont mind construtive critisim but it appears we are not there.
If your bothered about people in Aleppo why dont you do something about it. I prefer not to discuss my political opinions on the forum if I can help it.
I am concentrating on my trading, this trading diary is for me to express myslef.
It is not just about the screenshot each day its about, if, how, what, when and why.
Your saying just concentrate on your trades, what do you think I am doing for 99% of my time when I am not typng here...
To be successful at trading you need to be able to relate to Maslows Pyramid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_ ... y_of_needs
Your entitled to your opinions and views but as soon as you read something your not I agreement with . You start saying that people ...may not like you, find you irritating . Are being negative ...SeaHorseRacing wrote:Really? I am getting fed up with the constant negativitey.
The title of this topic is Trading Diary- If you research the english dictonairy you will understand that the word diary means- a book on which you record your thoughts or feelings or what has happened each day.
I think this justifys enough reasons for me to express my feelings on each day, this is the whole point of my thread. Addiotionally why would anyone want to read something that had no meaning, feeling or expression.
Just like the newspapers in the shop, if you go to your local newsagents for milk or whatever you dont have to read the papers. This is your choice to read my topic.
You are unbelievably negative mate.
You know people may dislike me people may be irritated by me but seriously I have asnwered all your questions and taking my time to explain trades to you yet you just want to try and wrap me in cotton wool and get me to give up.
I wont be giving up, this is the begning.
It may only £50 but you know what I am proud of myself because I managed to sit at my desk allday knowing I messed up and had no chance of even making a couple of quid.
I started to diarise this 5 days ago and I had 4 profitable days and a loss today. I achieved a personal goal which was to protect my back and stop my urges, yet you seem to think I am not making progress.
Yes I paid for a course, but you know what I got up everyday to work and provide for my family and I took the plunge with some of my savings to try and make a differnce in my life, what is wrong with that?
Its a trading diary not a life story, I dont include my home life, my family life & friends if it appears all dramatic like eastenders dont read it mate.
I am under the impression that you want me to provide this information and diary without the chitchat about my feelings at the same time. Well unfortunately we can not change anything or anyone but ourselves.
What is selfish about my posts, yes its dramatic because I am open enough to understand that this trading game is about yourself, your expressions, your feelings.
There are two pinnacle stages in trading
1) Learning about the markets
2)learning about yourself.
I am working on myself. I genuinly dont mind construtive critisim but it appears we are not there.
If your bothered about people in Aleppo why dont you do something about it. I prefer not to discuss my political opinions on the forum if I can help it.
I am concentrating on my trading, this trading diary is for me to express myslef.
It is not just about the screenshot each day its about, if, how, what, when and why.
Your saying just concentrate on your trades, what do you think I am doing for 99% of my time when I am not typng here...
To be successful at trading you need to be able to relate to Maslows Pyramid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_ ... y_of_needs
You had a rant about a post Pinnocio made about you ... Going on about how he didn't know you etc . Then proceed to behave in exactly the same manor regarding me ... Making some very unfair assumptions ... Read what you posted again
I don't dislike you . You don't irritate me ... I'm certainly not trying to wrap you in cotton wool,... Not disputing you worked hard either. And I don't react the way you have when I see a post I don't agree with
I posted my views and opinions on what you posted ... As others have ... That's what a forum is for
If it affects you that much perhaps you need to rethink just how beneficial it is to you . You can still ask question s and get advice from everyone in here . Including me
I hope you succeed and get to where you want to be ... But please don't have a go posters for doing exactly what you are doing
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At the end of the day.
I am extremely passionate about what I am doing.
Yes I can be dramatic but I guess that's just a personally type.
its the 21st century. It's a bit like saying concentrate on your trading but stop being gay.
I am absolutely fascinated by trading and especially horse racing and everything about it. I get very animated and excited about things.
You know what its like your wife spending all evening dolling herself up and then you turn around and say love- you look fat in this dress.
Read the full topic I have been very open to many comments but sometimes things are out of place and not neccessary.
Abit like the champion trainer joke the other day on this topic, you know what If a had a cracking day on the markets and someone turned round and said hey your have enough money to be champion trainer soon I would find that funny.
I get hecked up by things because there is nothing to disagree with.
Its your opinion that I havent improved however, I believe its way of the mark.
There thats my opinion and alot visible others agree with me.
I have learned alot of the last year about forums and I know how it works, but If i disagree with something I will stand up and say it. Its what I am but at the same time I dont poke people.
The best way I can describe this is like so.
Your home with your family. A burgular enters your home and you react. You take them out.
Now, I am now in trouble for assault.
You know what, maybe me and my family are the lowest of the low type of people and maybe karma has come.
No matter what the law is, I was fully within my rights and what the burgar did was morally wrong.
What they did was wrong and now I am the criminal.
You see what I am saying.
If anyone wants to contribute please do and I would love for you to continue to contribute.
there's a lot of talk about I should use automation, currently I am not taking that root, this topic is so I can learn about me, my feelings. What's wrong with me. Why do I do the things I do.
If anyone can help please share. Just because you've turned to automation doesn't mean it's not possible for me to break my habits. We are all different and I definitely will be working on my own positive energy and not allow people to get to me.
I am fully aware I am quite ignorant and quite arrogant on this forum and I am concious to make a change and you know what it may pay off on my trading but there's a time and a place.
Don't kick the person you've hit to the deck.
Put them in there place and help them back up.
Anyway- Thats it for the night.
If you want to help, please dont tell me im dramatic or I havent improved because it is completley false when you look at the facts.
I am extremely passionate about what I am doing.
Yes I can be dramatic but I guess that's just a personally type.
its the 21st century. It's a bit like saying concentrate on your trading but stop being gay.
I am absolutely fascinated by trading and especially horse racing and everything about it. I get very animated and excited about things.
You know what its like your wife spending all evening dolling herself up and then you turn around and say love- you look fat in this dress.
Read the full topic I have been very open to many comments but sometimes things are out of place and not neccessary.
Abit like the champion trainer joke the other day on this topic, you know what If a had a cracking day on the markets and someone turned round and said hey your have enough money to be champion trainer soon I would find that funny.
I get hecked up by things because there is nothing to disagree with.
Its your opinion that I havent improved however, I believe its way of the mark.
There thats my opinion and alot visible others agree with me.
I have learned alot of the last year about forums and I know how it works, but If i disagree with something I will stand up and say it. Its what I am but at the same time I dont poke people.
The best way I can describe this is like so.
Your home with your family. A burgular enters your home and you react. You take them out.
Now, I am now in trouble for assault.
You know what, maybe me and my family are the lowest of the low type of people and maybe karma has come.
No matter what the law is, I was fully within my rights and what the burgar did was morally wrong.
What they did was wrong and now I am the criminal.
You see what I am saying.
If anyone wants to contribute please do and I would love for you to continue to contribute.
there's a lot of talk about I should use automation, currently I am not taking that root, this topic is so I can learn about me, my feelings. What's wrong with me. Why do I do the things I do.
If anyone can help please share. Just because you've turned to automation doesn't mean it's not possible for me to break my habits. We are all different and I definitely will be working on my own positive energy and not allow people to get to me.
I am fully aware I am quite ignorant and quite arrogant on this forum and I am concious to make a change and you know what it may pay off on my trading but there's a time and a place.
Don't kick the person you've hit to the deck.
Put them in there place and help them back up.
Anyway- Thats it for the night.
If you want to help, please dont tell me im dramatic or I havent improved because it is completley false when you look at the facts.
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Perspective is important, but now you're really are straying into 6th form psychology.Halliday wrote: Look Round the world at places like Aleppo, the civil wars in Africa, the number of refugees drowned this year .. And stop being so damn dramatic and selfish about what your doing
There you go SHR, you should be happy to be punched in the face because it's better than being shot in the balls.
Hey SHR, don't get annoyed by negativity
100,000 UK people are today expected to suffer from various ailments leading to bowel incontinence
So, even if other posters annoy you, just remember, there's over 100k people who are going to shit themselves today.
I always try to look for perspective where I can
100,000 UK people are today expected to suffer from various ailments leading to bowel incontinence
So, even if other posters annoy you, just remember, there's over 100k people who are going to shit themselves today.
I always try to look for perspective where I can
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100,000!? And here I was thinking I was the only one...LeTiss 4pm wrote:Hey SHR, don't get annoyed by negativity
100,000 UK people are today expected to suffer from various ailments leading to bowel incontinence
So, even if other posters annoy you, just remember, there's over 100k people who are going to shit themselves today.
I always try to look for perspective where I can
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statistically 30 of em are here on betangel. come on, own up lads, we're all friends on here!LeTiss 4pm wrote:So, even if other posters annoy you, just remember, there's over 100k people who are going to shit themselves today.
- SeaHorseRacing
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Thank you for the advice guys.
I will post my screenshot later as there are still a few interesting markets at Kempton I need to attend to.
It appears murphys law is knocking on my door again. I was having an OK day until I placed a back bet into a market and put my closing ticks below, I took Sp.
Altough it went in play, it was a predfined trade to go inplay so it was safe to do so, however my bets at sp never got matched.. So I held out for 3/4 seconds and then immeditarly hedged, my trade went boom -£6.
I did recently see that the streaming does have a delay and it would appear that is what happened so I should have held out a little longer. Learned my lesson.
I have learned so much about me today. I have been just sat here the last hour pondering over my trading. I have no urges to behave irrationally. In fact quite humply in peace.
I have been working really hard on my paradigm and the results are truly amazing and for that reason I am going to try and do more on it.
I feel at one today and the small bamk was the best thing I ever did to my trading. I can trade for real money and whe I am hit with aloss or any reason I can truly reflect on myself.
I still feel the exact same emotions that I did with a large bank.
I will post my screenshot later as there are still a few interesting markets at Kempton I need to attend to.
It appears murphys law is knocking on my door again. I was having an OK day until I placed a back bet into a market and put my closing ticks below, I took Sp.
Altough it went in play, it was a predfined trade to go inplay so it was safe to do so, however my bets at sp never got matched.. So I held out for 3/4 seconds and then immeditarly hedged, my trade went boom -£6.
I did recently see that the streaming does have a delay and it would appear that is what happened so I should have held out a little longer. Learned my lesson.
I have learned so much about me today. I have been just sat here the last hour pondering over my trading. I have no urges to behave irrationally. In fact quite humply in peace.
I have been working really hard on my paradigm and the results are truly amazing and for that reason I am going to try and do more on it.
I feel at one today and the small bamk was the best thing I ever did to my trading. I can trade for real money and whe I am hit with aloss or any reason I can truly reflect on myself.
I still feel the exact same emotions that I did with a large bank.
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I think you are doing ok...
Seems to take you a little while to get in the zone though
I am no expert but I am doing ok but I think you need to look at ways of automating a few of your tasks... its the best thing I have done and I think I am well on my way to a nice little earner
Seems to take you a little while to get in the zone though

I am no expert but I am doing ok but I think you need to look at ways of automating a few of your tasks... its the best thing I have done and I think I am well on my way to a nice little earner

SeaHorseRacing wrote:Thank you for the advice guys.
I will post my screenshot later as there are still a few interesting markets at Kempton I need to attend to.
It appears murphys law is knocking on my door again. I was having an OK day until I placed a back bet into a market and put my closing ticks below, I took Sp.
Altough it went in play, it was a predfined trade to go inplay so it was safe to do so, however my bets at sp never got matched.. So I held out for 3/4 seconds and then immeditarly hedged, my trade went boom -£6.
I did recently see that the streaming does have a delay and it would appear that is what happened so I should have held out a little longer. Learned my lesson.
I have learned so much about me today. I have been just sat here the last hour pondering over my trading. I have no urges to behave irrationally. In fact quite humply in peace.
I have been working really hard on my paradigm and the results are truly amazing and for that reason I am going to try and do more on it.
I feel at one today and the small bamk was the best thing I ever did to my trading. I can trade for real money and whe I am hit with aloss or any reason I can truly reflect on myself.
I still feel the exact same emotions that I did with a large bank.
That's how it should be SHR take the emotion out of it and enjoy it , because it's something you want to do .
Don't complicate things and over analyse, the best trades are the ones that "just happen "if that makes sense ?
Yes have a plan and stick to it, and treat you losing trades the same way you would treat a winning trade , and don't think what " might have been " and you don't need to " reflect on your self " every time things dint go to plan
Minimum drama in that post . Well done !!!. Think I can give myself a pat on the back too
