Recent "Starting out as a sports trader" blog - A question

The sport of kings.
User avatar
Black Ice
Posts: 258
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:35 pm

Le Tiss wrote: Ticks with Greening is the only reason I'm still here trading
I follow you as one of the experts..but cd you explain above comment please? It is clearly more profound than just hedging more greens than reds! Sorry if it sounds a silly Qn to u!
User avatar
LeTiss
Posts: 5489
Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 6:04 pm

Black Ice wrote:Le Tiss wrote: Ticks with Greening is the only reason I'm still here trading
I follow you as one of the experts..but cd you explain above comment please? It is clearly more profound than just hedging more greens than reds! Sorry if it sounds a silly Qn to u!
That's not a short response, Black Ice!

I will post my answer later on when I have 5 minutes mate
User avatar
gutuami
Posts: 1858
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:06 pm

ShaunWhite wrote: ..
Hedging at 3.0 returns 32% more profit than hedging at 4.0 or from the other view...hedging at 4.0 returns 24% less profit than hedging at 3.0.

Also when laying first, each tick up earns you less than the cost of each tick down.

I don't understand why this isn't mentioned more, or is just passed over as being largely insignificant.
your logic is half true.
I could say the just the opposite:

Hedging at 3.0 returns 32% more loss than hedging at 4.0 or from the other view...hedging at 4.0 returns 24% less loss than hedging at 3.0
ajdal
Posts: 101
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:05 am

Surely if you do, for example, a 1 tick scalp for equal amounts... greening that amount at a lower price returns greater??... I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong...??!?... which I think is what the OP is saying ??
User avatar
gutuami
Posts: 1858
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:06 pm

ajdal wrote:Surely if you do, for example, a 1 tick scalp for equal amounts... greening that amount at a lower price returns greater??... I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong...??!?... which I think is what the OP is saying ??
off course you are not wrong. You are wrong when you assume that you can always green/red out at the best price.
what is the best price for greening is the worse for redding and viceversa.
User avatar
ShaunWhite
Posts: 10526
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:42 am

Well after a whole load of coffee & spreadsheetalisification...taking losses, wins and step changes into account, aside from one or two specific cases, I can say with reasonable confidence....

...it makes sod all difference :roll:

somehow I thought that might be the case.
ajdal
Posts: 101
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:05 am

gutuami wrote:off course you are not wrong. You are wrong when you assume that you can always green/red out at the best price.
what is the best price for greening is the worse for redding and viceversa.
And you assumed that I don't agree.... hahaha

I will add I am guilty of delaying hedging if I feel I can get a better price at a later stage... but it is very much swings and roundabouts...
User avatar
Black Ice
Posts: 258
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:35 pm

Le Tiss: Still waiting with bated breath for a reply..or can you PM me? Many thanks...
Post Reply

Return to “Trading Horse racing”