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Braulio
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Euler wrote:Favourite on the last eight races yesterday: -

Basically if you had laid to open at Wolvs last night you would have made money.
What moment does the "open" correspond to?
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ShaunWhite
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Braulio wrote: What moment does the "open" correspond to?
Usually somewhere between 5 to 10 mins before post time.
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Dallas
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Last second scare for the fav backers in the 14:20
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workpeter
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12 for 12 in pre-race market. Maybe time to scale up bets.

Got caught out by the sudden rise in price for fav in extr 16:50 and he went on to lose. Interesting.
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jonnyhoareau1
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Sorry all, I'm new here. What do you mean by lay to open?

Also place to open?

Thank you.
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Euler
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jonnyhoareau1 wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:53 pm
Sorry all, I'm new here. What do you mean by lay to open?

Also place to open?

Thank you.
Lay to open means you start the trade with a lay bet and vice versa.
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Euler
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13:30 - Lay to open @ 3.20 to 3.50 for 6 ticks & £8.57
13:50 - Back to open @ 2.66 to 2.62 for 2 ticks & £1.53
14:00 - Back to open @ 7.40 to 7.20 for 1 ticks & £2.78
14:10 - Lay to open @ 1.18 to 1.19 for 1 ticks & £0.84
14:20 - Lay to open @ 1.08 to 1.08 for 0 ticks & £0.00
14:30 - Back to open @ 3.10 to 2.84 for 10 ticks & £9.15
14:40 - Lay to open @ 2.22 to 2.28 for 3 ticks & £2.63
14:50 - Back to open @ 5.20 to 3.80 for 16 ticks & £36.84
15:00 - Back to open @ 2.80 to 2.50 for 15 ticks & £12.00
15:10 - Back to open @ 1.47 to 1.35 for 12 ticks & £8.89
15:20 - Back to open @ 6.40 to 6.00 for 2 ticks & £6.67
15:30 - Lay to open @ 2.34 to 2.42 for 4 ticks & £3.31
15:40 - Lay to open @ 2.78 to 3.00 for 11 ticks & £7.33
15:50 - Back to open @ 1.87 to 1.86 for 1 ticks & £0.54
16:00 - Lay to open @ 3.70 to 3.85 for 3 ticks & £3.90
16:10 - Back to open @ 3.40 to 3.20 for 4 ticks & £6.25
16:20 - Back to open @ 2.34 to 1.99 for 18 ticks & £17.59
16:30 - Back to open @ 1.56 to 1.50 for 6 ticks & £4.00
16:40 - Back to open @ 2.26 to 2.12 for 7 ticks & £6.60
16:50 - Back to open @ 2.06 to 2.02 for 2 ticks & £1.98
17:00 - Back to open @ 3.20 to 3.10 for 2 ticks & £3.23

Another profitable day for back to open's
willthompson
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What kind of stakes are you opening with?
Korattt
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Euler wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:57 pm
13:30 - Lay to open @ 3.20 to 3.50 for 6 ticks & £8.57
13:50 - Back to open @ 2.66 to 2.62 for 2 ticks & £1.53
14:00 - Back to open @ 7.40 to 7.20 for 1 ticks & £2.78
14:10 - Lay to open @ 1.18 to 1.19 for 1 ticks & £0.84
14:20 - Lay to open @ 1.08 to 1.08 for 0 ticks & £0.00
14:30 - Back to open @ 3.10 to 2.84 for 10 ticks & £9.15
14:40 - Lay to open @ 2.22 to 2.28 for 3 ticks & £2.63
14:50 - Back to open @ 5.20 to 3.80 for 16 ticks & £36.84
15:00 - Back to open @ 2.80 to 2.50 for 15 ticks & £12.00
15:10 - Back to open @ 1.47 to 1.35 for 12 ticks & £8.89
15:20 - Back to open @ 6.40 to 6.00 for 2 ticks & £6.67
15:30 - Lay to open @ 2.34 to 2.42 for 4 ticks & £3.31
15:40 - Lay to open @ 2.78 to 3.00 for 11 ticks & £7.33
15:50 - Back to open @ 1.87 to 1.86 for 1 ticks & £0.54
16:00 - Lay to open @ 3.70 to 3.85 for 3 ticks & £3.90
16:10 - Back to open @ 3.40 to 3.20 for 4 ticks & £6.25
16:20 - Back to open @ 2.34 to 1.99 for 18 ticks & £17.59
16:30 - Back to open @ 1.56 to 1.50 for 6 ticks & £4.00
16:40 - Back to open @ 2.26 to 2.12 for 7 ticks & £6.60
16:50 - Back to open @ 2.06 to 2.02 for 2 ticks & £1.98
17:00 - Back to open @ 3.20 to 3.10 for 2 ticks & £3.23

Another profitable day for back to open's
was this done via automation or manual?
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Euler
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This is just data from the market. I don't trade every race exactly the same way I chop and change my style according to what I see.
Korattt
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Euler wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:44 am
This is just data from the market. I don't trade every race exactly the same way I chop and change my style according to what I see.
from the same time?, was 'open position' the same time before post, was data collected from the same time 'minutes to post' on every event?, if so what was the time to 'open position'?
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ShaunWhite
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I'm not sure how these charts are delivered to BA, as data or as an image (I guess the latter).
But it would be great to be able to set an upper/lower price limit so you can see the detail.
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Euler
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It varies from then I switch to the market, it's simply measuring what I could have done. I compare this sort of data to what I actually did to see if I could have done better. It's very rare for me to arrive in the market more than 10 mins out.

I just arrive when the liquidity is good enough for me to participate.
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Euler
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:55 pm
I'm not sure how these charts are delivered to BA, as data or as an image (I guess the latter).
But it would be great to be able to set an upper/lower price limit so you can see the detail.
They are just PNG files. Use the market overview to see the actual high and low traded prices.
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Dallas
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Choices choices on which to trade in the 14:10
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