I would like to have a shortcut for removing Closed markets from Guardian. Or an automated feature to do that for me.
Or ability to remove closed markets from from synchronized [with guardian] watch list.
New beta version of Bet Angel v1.47.0
- Willygubbins
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With the new addition of Offsetting by percentage, Is there a new Spreadsheet/ or command to enact this on the spread sheet or is it as simple as typing:
=BACK[OFFSET:50%][WITHGREENING:TRUE]
=BACK[OFFSET:50%][WITHGREENING:TRUE]
- Willygubbins
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On a side note......
Is there any plans to increase the number of automation nominated selections?
Is there any plans to increase the number of automation nominated selections?
Nearly. You'd enter: BACK OFFSET_PERC:50.0 WITH_GREENING:TRUEWillygubbins wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:08 pmWith the new addition of Offsetting by percentage, Is there a new Spreadsheet/ or command to enact this on the spread sheet or is it as simple as typing:
=BACK[OFFSET:50%][WITHGREENING:TRUE]
The new commands are:
- OFFSET_PERC:x.x
- STOP_PERC:x.x
- STOP_PLACE_PERC:x.x
- ShaunWhite
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errr... I'm probably being thick but aren't these the same apart from one stakes at Seed/Price and the other stakes at Seed/(Price-1), both stake equally each side. Or maybe this is the differnce?Bet Angel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:00 am
By Liability (Back & Lay Bets)
This option is most useful when you wish to trade by liability. Your back bets are staked in a similar way to the lay bets so that positions in the market can be easily opened and closed. In the case of a back bet, the ‘Seed Stake’ will now be your potential profit (the liability the person who takes your bet is accepting) so if you have selected a £20 stake and place a back bet at odds of 8.0 Bet Angel will calculate the amount required to realise a £20 profit; at odds of 8.0 it would mean a back bet of £2.86 is submitted to the market. This means if that selection wins you make a profit of £20 or a loss of -£2.86 if it loses.
By Book%
The ‘Seed Stake’ is divided by the placement price of the bet (the amount placed would be the same regardless of backing or laying). So, if you have selected a £20 stake and place a bet at odds of 5.0 the amount submitted would be £4 (£20 / 5.0 = £4) and if the same £20 stake was used to place a bet at odds of 2.2 the amount submitted would be £9.09 (£20 / 2.2 = £9.09).
It's tricky sometimes to work out these explainations as very similar options are worded in such different ways. It would be nice if the explaination also cut to the essence of the differences. It's clouding things to have Liabilty meaning my liability some cases and someones elses liability in others.
I can't throw stones though because my comments are usually even more verbose than these explainations.
So is it just,
Fixed Stake
Back stake = Preset amount
Lay stake = Preset amount
By Liability (Lay Only)
Back stake = Preset amount
Lay stake = Preset amount / (Price -1)
By Liability (Back & Lay Bets)
Back stake = Preset amount / (Price -1)
Lay stake = Preset amount / (Price -1)
By Book%
Back stake = Preset amount / Price
Lay stake = Preset amount / Price
By Tick Size
Back stake = Preset amount / Tick size
Lay stake = Preset amount / Tick size
?
- ShaunWhite
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!!!! INSTALLATION PROBLEM ?
I changed the installaion folder to be 'Bet Angel - Professional v1.47" so i wouldn't over write my old 'Bet Angel - Professional" folder.
The install has completed and it has deleted my old 'Bet Angel - Professional" folder and obviously all of it's sub folders !!!!.
WHY ? No archived copy of it, nothing in the recycle bin either, genius. What Beta install has EVER removed the Alpha ! BA dev are usually great but this is rollout 101.
'kin furious as I had other stuff in there too !!! Incl new templates.
It's time to go a backup and cross my fingers.
...thankfully it hasn't done the same to the ApplicatioData folder, or created a new one, so my old rules are still there.
Is it common knowledge you can't have 2 versions installed ? Did I miss that meeting.
I changed the installaion folder to be 'Bet Angel - Professional v1.47" so i wouldn't over write my old 'Bet Angel - Professional" folder.
The install has completed and it has deleted my old 'Bet Angel - Professional" folder and obviously all of it's sub folders !!!!.
WHY ? No archived copy of it, nothing in the recycle bin either, genius. What Beta install has EVER removed the Alpha ! BA dev are usually great but this is rollout 101.
'kin furious as I had other stuff in there too !!! Incl new templates.
It's time to go a backup and cross my fingers.
...thankfully it hasn't done the same to the ApplicatioData folder, or created a new one, so my old rules are still there.
Is it common knowledge you can't have 2 versions installed ? Did I miss that meeting.
So is it just,
Fixed Stake
Back stake = Preset amount
Lay stake = Preset amount
By Liability (Lay Only)
Back stake = Preset amount
Lay stake = Seed Stake is the amount your willing to risk no matter what odds you place your lay at, so with a seed stake of £50 lay @ 4.0 the amount placed is £16.67, put your lay bet at 18 and the amount placed will be £2.94.
By Liability (Back & Lay Bets)
Back stake = (think of it as Profit you want to make) so if you wanted a £50 profit from a bet you would chose a seed stake of £50 then when you place the bet the software calculates the amount required to return a £50 profit - so if you put a back bet at 6.0 the amount placed would be £10 as that is whats required to make you £50 profit if it wins at these odds
Lay stake = As Above
By Book%
Back stake = Preset amount / Price - yes (a £20 stake and place a bet at odds of 5.0 the amount submitted would be £4 (£20 / 5.0 = £4)
Lay stake = Preset amount / Price - yes (a £20 stake and place a bet at odds of 5.0 the amount submitted would be £4 (£20 / 5.0 = £4)
By Tick Size
Profit per tick increment - £5 seed stake will place what ever amount is required so that you make £5 each tick the price moves, this is also the same as its always been https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/aut ... 3D&mw=MzIw
Why did you not just install it over the top - it keeps all exsisting settings, profiles, automation files exactly as they are the same as it does with every new upgrade.
You'll probably find your old folder is still there at this file path C:/Users/Your user name/AppData/Roaming/Bet Angel/Bet Angel Professional
Fixed Stake
Back stake = Preset amount
Lay stake = Preset amount
By Liability (Lay Only)
Back stake = Preset amount
Lay stake = Seed Stake is the amount your willing to risk no matter what odds you place your lay at, so with a seed stake of £50 lay @ 4.0 the amount placed is £16.67, put your lay bet at 18 and the amount placed will be £2.94.
By Liability (Back & Lay Bets)
Back stake = (think of it as Profit you want to make) so if you wanted a £50 profit from a bet you would chose a seed stake of £50 then when you place the bet the software calculates the amount required to return a £50 profit - so if you put a back bet at 6.0 the amount placed would be £10 as that is whats required to make you £50 profit if it wins at these odds
Lay stake = As Above
By Book%
Back stake = Preset amount / Price - yes (a £20 stake and place a bet at odds of 5.0 the amount submitted would be £4 (£20 / 5.0 = £4)
Lay stake = Preset amount / Price - yes (a £20 stake and place a bet at odds of 5.0 the amount submitted would be £4 (£20 / 5.0 = £4)
By Tick Size
Profit per tick increment - £5 seed stake will place what ever amount is required so that you make £5 each tick the price moves, this is also the same as its always been https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/aut ... 3D&mw=MzIw
Why did you not just install it over the top - it keeps all exsisting settings, profiles, automation files exactly as they are the same as it does with every new upgrade.
You'll probably find your old folder is still there at this file path C:/Users/Your user name/AppData/Roaming/Bet Angel/Bet Angel Professional
- ShaunWhite
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Because it's a beta. And a new version, and it allows it.
I've installed new versions into new version folders for donkeys years. It's what you do incase an install fcks up.
I can run every old version of Word or ACDSEE or GIMP or Inkscape or Sketchup I've ever had. Different versions have different pro's and cons.
That's not where the installs go, that's just the AppData folder .
...ta for the other info...i'll look at it later
- ShaunWhite
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Thankfully my overnight incremental backup seems to be intact. So no real permanent drama.
It would be handy though if the install had a warning to say that it won't work like normal installs do. Or a 'Don't bother changing this' message on the default install folder prompt.
Serves me right for keeping stuff in the Program Files (x86) folder I guess. Lesson learnt.
It would be handy though if the install had a warning to say that it won't work like normal installs do. Or a 'Don't bother changing this' message on the default install folder prompt.
Serves me right for keeping stuff in the Program Files (x86) folder I guess. Lesson learnt.
- ShaunWhite
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We also seem to have 46 unresolved registry entries from the old version.
It was just the frustration of sitting on 1.44 until 3 later versions have been user tested, changing the install folder as a precaution....and still getting slightly shafted that did it.
On the upside, 1.47 looks like a upgrade well worth doing, especially from 1.44.
I'm sorry if I appear 'over sensitive' about what to some appear to be trivial software issues. I'm a bit OCD about software testing. I come from many years of software development in an environment where problems cost millions and issues are zero tollerance. If there's one obvious problem then I worry there's others less obvious, that makes any issue a big issue. Unfortunately when I find problems and I can't fire someone or chuck them in the Thames from the top floor, I end up venting on here a bit more than I maybe should. I'm not a good passenger and miss being the driver.It was just the frustration of sitting on 1.44 until 3 later versions have been user tested, changing the install folder as a precaution....and still getting slightly shafted that did it.
On the upside, 1.47 looks like a upgrade well worth doing, especially from 1.44.
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We don't have a great deal of control over the installation routine as it's auto generated following a bit of configuration. It'd be nice to have the time to handcraft it, but we've limited development resource and focus all of the our time moving the product forward - the installer gets about an hour per release.The concept of overwriting the previous version was set many years ago as customers had a habit of leaving old versions installed and complained when they ran an old version - we've had significantly less support queries since getting the new installation to auto-uninstall the old.
If you want two versions side by side then I think you can trick the installer by renaming the folder of the first installation (that way it can't find the files to uninstall them!).
If you want two versions side by side then I think you can trick the installer by renaming the folder of the first installation (that way it can't find the files to uninstall them!).
an alternative way round this is to create a VM installation with your core apps in place and version those. This is a more robust way fwd as it is a self contained environment and as such is free from external influence. I personally don't take the jump into new versions until anecdotal evidence appears to support its robust nature (and/or the proper prod version appears). I don't think I could be bothered with keeping multiple copies of named folders laying around. My approach would be the VM if you really need to hold onto robust back versions.
- ShaunWhite
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And now when I try and run it after a reboot...
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shaun,
good chance my suggestion won't work, but i've often seen similar messages to that when you have a command line that contains space (as most do tbh). to resolve this, enclose the shortcut link between dbl quotes.
As i said good chance (it won't)
good chance my suggestion won't work, but i've often seen similar messages to that when you have a command line that contains space (as most do tbh). to resolve this, enclose the shortcut link between dbl quotes.
As i said good chance (it won't)