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SeaHorseRacing
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dragontrades wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:04 pm
Should have had a day off instead, never really got going today.
How long have you been trading?
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nick11 wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:17 pm
My bet on fav winnings not paid to me yesterday or today?

guardian setting screenshots

https://www.screencast.com/t/hlV9uB38vz5D

https://www.screencast.com/t/bCXE3Xi3


Should show £4+ for my £15 bet on fav but not showing, any solutions please?

Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Crosse Fire 3.55 15.00 Back 07-Mar-17 13:59 -15.00
Crosse Fire 3.05 15.00 Lay 07-Mar-17 13:59 15.00
Dusty Blue * 5.77 9.68 Back 46.13
Dusty Blue 7.00 8.00 Lay 07-Mar-17 13:51 -48.00
Treaty of Rome * 5.30 10.94 Back -10.94
Treaty of Rome 5.80 10.00 Lay 07-Mar-17 13:44 10.00
*Average odds: On Off Back subtotal: 20.19
Lay subtotal: -23.00
Market subtotal: -2.81
Commission : 0.00
Net Market Total: -2.81

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in guardian automation there is log : https://www.screencast.com/t/HCtBnpPQnnR


thanks
Missed that. Open up a new topic and someone will be able to assist you.
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How long have you been trading?
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just over a year
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SeaHorseRacing
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dragontrades wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:12 pm
How long have you been trading?
just over a year
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Looking at your results your trading quite well.

Wether anyone thinks my advice is any good. If your more selective on your markets you will have knocked it out of the park today.
Were you implementing the wrong tactics on on those bigger losses? Swing trading?
Jukebox
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nick11 This is the trade you are refering to

Crosse Fire 3.55 15.00 Back 07-Mar-17 13:59 -15.00
Crosse Fire 3.05 15.00 Lay 07-Mar-17 13:59 15.00


Nice trade - but there was no hedge, consequently you will collect only if it wins - it went on to lose - so you collected nothing.
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nick11 wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:17 pm
My bet on fav winnings not paid to me yesterday or today?

guardian setting screenshots

https://www.screencast.com/t/hlV9uB38vz5D

https://www.screencast.com/t/bCXE3Xi3


Should show £4+ for my £15 bet on fav but not showing, any solutions please?

Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Crosse Fire 3.55 15.00 Back 07-Mar-17 13:59 -15.00
Crosse Fire 3.05 15.00 Lay 07-Mar-17 13:59 15.00
Dusty Blue * 5.77 9.68 Back 46.13
Dusty Blue 7.00 8.00 Lay 07-Mar-17 13:51 -48.00
Treaty of Rome * 5.30 10.94 Back -10.94
Treaty of Rome 5.80 10.00 Lay 07-Mar-17 13:44 10.00
*Average odds: On Off Back subtotal: 20.19
Lay subtotal: -23.00
Market subtotal: -2.81
Commission : 0.00
Net Market Total: -2.81

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in guardian automation there is log : https://www.screencast.com/t/HCtBnpPQnnR


thanks
Crosse Fire did not win so for that one £0
Dustly blue greened up for -£1.87
Treaty of Rome Greened up for -£0.94

Total -£2.81

As shown in your sub toal above
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:52 pm
ajtrimnell1 wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:16 pm
I`ve only been trading since November. The markets are gloriously calm compared with February, is this more the direction they`ll go in over the summer? If that makes sense.
Have a look at this https://www.betangel.com/blog_wp/2017/0 ... he-tunnel/
Thanks for that, gives me hope for Cheltenham! :)
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One thing I will say is that even though the markets wil improve into the summer, I thought this last year that I wasnt making money because the markets were so poor. Dont get me wrong its not easy some days but you should generally be making something or have some kindof consitancy in this period of the year imo.
Dont be led into false hope that come the summer it will all work out, you get some awfull days racing in the summer too. Especially with Wimbledon clashing they tend to be weak markets. When evening racing starts some markets are horrendous.

Some days in the summer it is easy to trade. I think winter is an excellent time to learn. You can adapt to really tough markets and because most days are not brilliant it allows the chance to really work and focus on learning.

I went fulltime last october, I re started from scratch in December and still blew a bank. My focus has really bee adapting to me. I think the skill in trading is coping with a shity day. Its not easy as I am sure your aware but surviving the winter will make summer a great one.

There are still atleast 2/3 decent opportunitys on these poor winter days.
It is much easier said then done, but having 4/5 great days and then 2 days that takes half of it back is really tough to cope with.

I made a profit in February and January but I must admit on a few occasions I left my desk at the end of the day feeling depressed. Feeling like ive lost an edge ive been working so hard on. All for the next day to change in a blink of an eye.

I think the best way to cope with the winter is to not even look at your balance daily. Stick to what you know, or just concetrate on not losing money and it all comes together at the end of the month or so.

Though I would share that. Good luck.
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seem to keep reading about how dire the horse racing markets are in the winter etc, and how much better they are in summer, and therefore it seems to be implied the summer races are easier to trade and so on.

i think a bit realism is required.

the reasons a runners price moves in a market is usually the same in winter as it in summer. if you cant trade the winter markets successfully, why would you be able to trade the summer ones any better?

mondays and tuesdays are still as crap in the summer as they are in winter, except there is more of them due the evening races and are invariably low quality.

the quality of racing gets better towards saturday, with best usually on saturday (not always)

the evening stuff is mediocre to say the least, as with the sunday racing (not the sunday irish racing which is usually better quality than the british).

true there are more markets to trade but a high proportion will be bad/dire all weather and summer jumps rubbish, if you cant read the markets in the winter/this time of the year, you will not find them any easier in the summer.
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I agree with that too. Keep reading about all these traders who are going to start making money just because it's summer and the markets behave better!

I've said before on here that I much prefer trading October to March than I do April to September. For me summer just means twice the workload, but it doesn't usually equal twice the profits. For me personally,it's more a case of double the workload for half the money.

It's true that there are many more races to trade. Though it can also mean that liquidity thins out and you get loads of clashes and races going off at the same time.

The main bonus of the summer for me is that there is more high quality flat racing to trade and all the festivals and some decent midweek meetings. Otherwise I find it a bit of a struggle. There is also lots of other sport on too, tennis, cricket etc that clashes with the racing. Plus when the weather is nice outside it can be hard to sit at your computer for 8 hours solid, where as in the winter, I'd be indoors doing nothing anyway.

At least this year is an odd year which means no football tournament, that's a good thing in my opinion. When the Euros or World Cup is on it just adds an extra distraction and takes more money away from the horses.

Agree with the above comments, if you're not making money now, don't expect it to suddenly get easier just because it's summer.
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SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:07 pm
I think winter is an excellent time to learn.

I went fulltime last october, I re started from scratch in December and still blew a bank.. but I must admit on a few occasions I left my desk at the end of the day feeling depressed.

Though I would share that. Good luck.
Pretty much the same situation as me, great post SHR
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FONTWELL: Racing today has been ABANDONED. Standing water and waterlogged in places. 10.2mm rain overnight, further 4-6mm forecasted for today
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oscar123 wrote:
Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:22 am
I agree with that too. Keep reading about all these traders who are going to start making money just because it's summer and the markets behave better!

I've said before on here that I much prefer trading October to March than I do April to September. For me summer just means twice the workload, but it doesn't usually equal twice the profits. For me personally,it's more a case of double the workload for half the money.

It's true that there are many more races to trade. Though it can also mean that liquidity thins out and you get loads of clashes and races going off at the same time.

The main bonus of the summer for me is that there is more high quality flat racing to trade and all the festivals and some decent midweek meetings. Otherwise I find it a bit of a struggle. There is also lots of other sport on too, tennis, cricket etc that clashes with the racing. Plus when the weather is nice outside it can be hard to sit at your computer for 8 hours solid, where as in the winter, I'd be indoors doing nothing anyway.

At least this year is an odd year which means no football tournament, that's a good thing in my opinion. When the Euros or World Cup is on it just adds an extra distraction and takes more money away from the horses.

Agree with the above comments, if you're not making money now, don't expect it to suddenly get easier just because it's summer.
Totally agree with the above, especially about the likes of Chester , Newmarket , Goodwood, Ascot in terms of liquidity at their three and four day meetings. But summer isn't the Holy Grail for those who are struggling now.Yarmouth on a Thursday night ain't much different from some of the all weather evening fixtures we have now.and in some cases worse with few runners and low liquidity
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Dallas wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:16 pm
...just set some shortcut keys up to green up at best and reverse prices.
Hi, Dallas.

I'm interested in setting the 'reverse green up' on my programmable mouse (it's the same as yours).

But when I look in the 'trade closure' section, I don't have the option to do this, even though I can see it is available via the help file in the following image >> https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/key ... 3D&mw=MzIw

What am I missing?
I am using the latest version of BA.

Can you assist, please.

Cheers.
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Dallas
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Geordie wrote:
Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:54 am
Dallas wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:16 pm
...just set some shortcut keys up to green up at best and reverse prices.
Hi, Dallas.

I'm interested in setting the 'reverse green up' on my programmable mouse (it's the same as yours).

But when I look in the 'trade closure' section, I don't have the option to do this, even though I can see it is available via the help file in the following image >> https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/key ... 3D&mw=MzIw

What am I missing?
I am using the latest version of BA.

Can you assist, please.

Cheers.
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