I know there have been a few posts on the today's racing thread about summer/winter fixtures, field sizes etc. If any one is interested the BHA bring out regular Racing Data Packs in their resource centre
http://www.britishhorseracing.com/resou ... tatistics/
And if you need to filter them you can use their "dashing " page , just go into settings to amend data
http://brenda.britishhorseracing.com/da ... -12%7C1-31
Interesting to see how the fixtures have changed profile wise over the years.
Worth a look if you have a spare half hour or so
BHA stats, field sizes, fixture types, odds on favs etc
More racing than ever this year !!
A total of 1,496 fixtures have been scheduled, 14 more than planned in 2016, across 363 days – an extra day of racing than usual owing to 23 December falling on a Saturday. This growth will generate revenue for racecourses, opportunities for horsemen and benefit bookmakers. Owing to the recent growth in horse population and field sizes, as well as the ongoing work to address small field sizes and the addition of a northern All Weather track, we forecast that the horse population should be able to meet the increased race programme without a reduction in field sizes or competitiveness.
Ratio of fixtures in 2017 – Jump: 40.2%, Flat Turf 38.1%, All Weather 21.7% This remains broadly similar to last year (2016: Jump 40% : Flat Turf 38.7% : All Weather 21.3%) despite the new All Weather course at Newcastle being in place for the whole of 2017 (rather than May-Dec 2016) and the addition of 11 All Weather fixtures on Saturday evenings from January to March
894 Flat fixtures scheduled (six more than in 2016). Of these fixtures, 570 are Flat Turf fixtures (three fewer than 2016) while 324 are All Weather fixtures (nine more than originally scheduled in 2016)
602 Jump fixtures scheduled (eight more than 2016, due in part to the reopening of Hereford racecourse)
There are 1,219 racecourse fixtures (the same as 2016), 234 BHA Fixtures (17 more than 2016), 13 Self-Funded fixtures (the same as in 2016), and 30 Enterprise/Other Fixtures (one fewer than in 2016)
By betting session, there will be 1,115 afternoon fixtures, 333 evening fixtures and 48 twilight fixtures
A total of 1,496 fixtures have been scheduled, 14 more than planned in 2016, across 363 days – an extra day of racing than usual owing to 23 December falling on a Saturday. This growth will generate revenue for racecourses, opportunities for horsemen and benefit bookmakers. Owing to the recent growth in horse population and field sizes, as well as the ongoing work to address small field sizes and the addition of a northern All Weather track, we forecast that the horse population should be able to meet the increased race programme without a reduction in field sizes or competitiveness.
Ratio of fixtures in 2017 – Jump: 40.2%, Flat Turf 38.1%, All Weather 21.7% This remains broadly similar to last year (2016: Jump 40% : Flat Turf 38.7% : All Weather 21.3%) despite the new All Weather course at Newcastle being in place for the whole of 2017 (rather than May-Dec 2016) and the addition of 11 All Weather fixtures on Saturday evenings from January to March
894 Flat fixtures scheduled (six more than in 2016). Of these fixtures, 570 are Flat Turf fixtures (three fewer than 2016) while 324 are All Weather fixtures (nine more than originally scheduled in 2016)
602 Jump fixtures scheduled (eight more than 2016, due in part to the reopening of Hereford racecourse)
There are 1,219 racecourse fixtures (the same as 2016), 234 BHA Fixtures (17 more than 2016), 13 Self-Funded fixtures (the same as in 2016), and 30 Enterprise/Other Fixtures (one fewer than in 2016)
By betting session, there will be 1,115 afternoon fixtures, 333 evening fixtures and 48 twilight fixtures
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SeaHorseRacing
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They have got to be taking the piss right?
For someone who is involved in the industry. Driving for 4 hours to Wolverhampton on a Friday night on the lowest wage going, all in all for a horse rated 60 to win a 2k race. To then spend two hours trying to convince your terrified horse in the middle of pitch black thats its safe to get back onto the trailer.
Ever tied to load a horse in a trailer that doesnt want to?
Ever been to Wolverhampton when it gets dark, there are no lights anyone near the stables.
To not get home untul 3 am.. all in all to get back up and muck out at 7am again. All trainers claim they give traveling lads mornings off on a late night but you will find that never happens because they are so short staffed.
Trainers are not intereted in racing on a Friday nght nor anymore fixtures., the only people interested are the small time owners so they can get pissed up with their mate or desperate to find a race thats winnable.
The BHA need to stop boosting up the prize money on these big events.
Why do French racing, USA and Austrailian racing have more prize money? Because they dont have 40 races a day compared to population ratio.
Even from a trading perspective there is too much racing.
More racing is not good for racing. The only person its good for is the bookies and another tally on the trainers name.
Bookmakers and racecourses are killing the game. Every single racing yard is short staffed.
Fancy working 6.30am until 1.00pm. back in at 4pm untill 6pm, 6 days a week and every other Sunday morning off? for £300 a week. Head lads are barely getting much more. Lets not forget, If you work in a big yard your allocated about 6/8 of your own horses to look after. If there booked to race on a Sunday thats your day off gone.
Ive done Wolverhampton on a Friday night, Uttoxter and Ffos las all in one weekend. Yes you get paid overtime, but you need a break and to top it all off sometimes a two year old wants to just give you a little buck or tred on you and break your toes.
The BHA need to ditch about half of those fixtures.
Frustration over, No one is benefitting from more racing. We need less fixtures and more prize money split over.
Last edited by SeaHorseRacing on Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I'm just quoting the wise men ( or not so wise !!) of the BHA . Don't shoot the messenger !!SeaHorseRacing wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:48 pmYou have got to be taking the piss right?
For someone who is involved in the industry. Driving for 4 hours to Wolverhampton on a Friday night on the lowest wage going, all in all for a horse rated 60 to win a 2k race. To then spend two hours trying to convince your terrified horse in the middle of pitch black thats its safe to get back onto the trailer.
Ever tied to load a horse in a trailer that doesnt want to?
Ever been to Wolverhampton when it gets dark, there are no lights anyone near the stables.
To not get home untul 3 am.. all in all to get back up and muck out at 7am again. All trainers claim they give traveling lads mornings off on a late night but you will find that never happens because they are so short staffed.
Trainers are not intereted in racing on a Friday nght nor anymore fixtures., the only people interested are the small time owners so they can get pissed up with their mate or desperate to find a race thats winnable.
The BHA need to stop boosting up the prize money on these big events.
Why do French racing, USA and Austrailian racing have more prize money? Because they dont have 40 races a day compared to population ratio.
Even from a trading perspective there is too much racing.
More racing is not good for racing. The only person its good for is the bookies and another tally on the trainers name.
Bookmakers and racecourses are killing the game. Every single racing yard is short staffed.
Fancy working 6.30am until 1.00pm. back in at 4pm untill 6pm, 6 days a week and every other Sunday morning off? for £300 a week. Head lads are barely getting much more. Lets not forget, If you work in a big yard your allocated about 6/8 of your own horses to look after. If there booked to race on a Sunday thats your day off gone.
Ive done Wolverhampton on a Friday night, Uttoxter and Ffos las all in one weekend. Yes you get paid overtime, but you need a break and to top it all off sometimes a two year old wants to just give you a little buck or tred on you and break your toes.
The BHA need to ditch about half of those fixtures.
Frustration over, No one is benefitting from more racing. We need less fixtures and more prize money split over.
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SeaHorseRacing
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Not shooting the messager, just re read that. I knew it wasnt your words.
It should have said "they are taking the piss"
Imgine if the BHA cut half the fixtures.
Every race would be atleast 5k prize money. There would be 15 runners in almost every race. Racetracks would be full allowing them to promote more selective meetings, less out goings posisbly more revenue. Horsemen would get more time off. Teh courses could charge higher fees on the tv rights and from more oncourse bookmakers. People would breed less horses. Too many poor horses being bred.
Trading would be great quality everyday.
Its a win win for everybody. Why is it not happening, that I cannot answer for.
Youve got remember as well trainers like Andrew Balding are not trainers. How can one man train 200 horses?
Is 200 horses under one propertier really in the horses best interst?
Most trainers are businessmen at best.
Its concerning because Racing is driving down a dark road.
It should have said "they are taking the piss"
Imgine if the BHA cut half the fixtures.
Every race would be atleast 5k prize money. There would be 15 runners in almost every race. Racetracks would be full allowing them to promote more selective meetings, less out goings posisbly more revenue. Horsemen would get more time off. Teh courses could charge higher fees on the tv rights and from more oncourse bookmakers. People would breed less horses. Too many poor horses being bred.
Trading would be great quality everyday.
Its a win win for everybody. Why is it not happening, that I cannot answer for.
Youve got remember as well trainers like Andrew Balding are not trainers. How can one man train 200 horses?
Is 200 horses under one propertier really in the horses best interst?
Most trainers are businessmen at best.
Its concerning because Racing is driving down a dark road.
That's their reasoning if anyone is interested....
The headline enhancements to the Fixture List in 2017, in line with the four main strategy objectives, are as below. These enhancements lay the foundations for future years when, following the replacement of the Levy and introduction of the Racing Authority, the Fixture List will be able to be aligned fully with our strategic objective to grow racing and betting, in particular remote betting.
Increasing betting (particularly remote)
British racing’s Authorised Betting Partners have highlighted evening fixtures as the primary opportunity to support further growth in remote betting. This has resulted in:
The introduction of year-round racing on Saturday evenings, which includes the creation of 11 floodlit fixtures in winter. These fixtures should also support attendances.
On Thursdays and Fridays, the trialling of a move of twilight fixtures to evening fixtures. There are approximately 50 such fixtures but in practice this mean that just 35 fixtures will start, on average, one hour later than is currently the case.
With the success of a newly created twilight fixture on the Tuesday of the Cheltenham Festival, an additional twilight fixture will be added on the Monday before Cheltenham.
Growing attendances
The newly created Fixtures Group, including representatives from the BHA, horsemen and racecourses, acknowledged that this would involve racing at times of the week when the public are most able to attend race meetings but were conscious of the challenges faced by the sport’s participants servicing such fixtures. As a result, only limited changes have been made in this area.
Alongside the growth of the List and bolstering of Thursday/Friday/Saturday evening racing, a third fixture has been created on three of the five Friday evenings during the summer on which there are currently only two fixtures.
The creation of three additional Self-Funded fixtures on Saturday afternoons at York, Chester and Musselburgh (Easter Saturday).
Further focus will be placed on this area in coming years.
Improving efficiency for the participants.
A list of potential geographical clashes for each racecourse has been developed with racecourses and horsemen, which will be used to reduce the prospect of further clashes being created. Work will continue with the racecourses in the future to attempt to remove existing clashes in the 2017 List including a reduction of gaps (for example in the Northern Jump programme) and, where considered undesirable, clusters of fixtures within a particular region.
The introduction of code breaks with Flat-free Sundays from January to March (following the introduction of Saturday evenings throughout this period) and Flat-free Sundays during the summer (when the volume of racing is at its highest);
To reduce the number of Sundays with three fixtures by three days
Further work will be undertaken to explore how the Fixture List could be structured in a way that better supports recruitment and retention of racing’s workforce.
Supporting consumer/media requirements
With the support of the Levy Board, a Lead Fixture Fund is to be created to incentivise racecourses to stage a higher quality fixture every Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, offering prize money of at least £55k. The Race Incentive Fund will also offer higher support payments to stage quality races in midweek.
The main fixture on every Sunday to include a feature race with prize money of at least £20,000
Following the success of the first three years, the addition of a third Good Friday fixture with total prize on the day in excess of £1.4m. Following applications, fixtures will be staged at Lingfield Park (All-Weather Championships Finals Day), Newcastle and Bath in 2017. ARC has also pledged to continue to support the Lambourn Open Day.
The headline enhancements to the Fixture List in 2017, in line with the four main strategy objectives, are as below. These enhancements lay the foundations for future years when, following the replacement of the Levy and introduction of the Racing Authority, the Fixture List will be able to be aligned fully with our strategic objective to grow racing and betting, in particular remote betting.
Increasing betting (particularly remote)
British racing’s Authorised Betting Partners have highlighted evening fixtures as the primary opportunity to support further growth in remote betting. This has resulted in:
The introduction of year-round racing on Saturday evenings, which includes the creation of 11 floodlit fixtures in winter. These fixtures should also support attendances.
On Thursdays and Fridays, the trialling of a move of twilight fixtures to evening fixtures. There are approximately 50 such fixtures but in practice this mean that just 35 fixtures will start, on average, one hour later than is currently the case.
With the success of a newly created twilight fixture on the Tuesday of the Cheltenham Festival, an additional twilight fixture will be added on the Monday before Cheltenham.
Growing attendances
The newly created Fixtures Group, including representatives from the BHA, horsemen and racecourses, acknowledged that this would involve racing at times of the week when the public are most able to attend race meetings but were conscious of the challenges faced by the sport’s participants servicing such fixtures. As a result, only limited changes have been made in this area.
Alongside the growth of the List and bolstering of Thursday/Friday/Saturday evening racing, a third fixture has been created on three of the five Friday evenings during the summer on which there are currently only two fixtures.
The creation of three additional Self-Funded fixtures on Saturday afternoons at York, Chester and Musselburgh (Easter Saturday).
Further focus will be placed on this area in coming years.
Improving efficiency for the participants.
A list of potential geographical clashes for each racecourse has been developed with racecourses and horsemen, which will be used to reduce the prospect of further clashes being created. Work will continue with the racecourses in the future to attempt to remove existing clashes in the 2017 List including a reduction of gaps (for example in the Northern Jump programme) and, where considered undesirable, clusters of fixtures within a particular region.
The introduction of code breaks with Flat-free Sundays from January to March (following the introduction of Saturday evenings throughout this period) and Flat-free Sundays during the summer (when the volume of racing is at its highest);
To reduce the number of Sundays with three fixtures by three days
Further work will be undertaken to explore how the Fixture List could be structured in a way that better supports recruitment and retention of racing’s workforce.
Supporting consumer/media requirements
With the support of the Levy Board, a Lead Fixture Fund is to be created to incentivise racecourses to stage a higher quality fixture every Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, offering prize money of at least £55k. The Race Incentive Fund will also offer higher support payments to stage quality races in midweek.
The main fixture on every Sunday to include a feature race with prize money of at least £20,000
Following the success of the first three years, the addition of a third Good Friday fixture with total prize on the day in excess of £1.4m. Following applications, fixtures will be staged at Lingfield Park (All-Weather Championships Finals Day), Newcastle and Bath in 2017. ARC has also pledged to continue to support the Lambourn Open Day.