Today's Horse Racing

[SeaHorseRacing]

well, what a cwap day, absolutely wubbish

+1 It was wank!

[gutuami]

sorry mate but for me was just the opposite. I sort of like these type of days

[SeaHorseRacing]

sorry mate but for me was just the opposite. I sort of like these type of days

Are you more of a scalper?
Every move I got on just seemed like a mini move.

I definetly am going to work on being more versatile and adaptive. Days like this I can see the moves are not comming or going where I think yet I still try to push them. I generally try to only trade when liquidity hits when the last race has finished but with so many clashes I struggled. Every good trade today in which I made a profit in I think I gave atleast 4/5 tick away from not being defense and greed.

[Mr Undercover]

"What a sham the racing at Ayr today, did you see Craiganboy make a mockery of the whole handicapp system in the 15.15. I feel desperately sorry for anyone who thought they were betting on a fair race...

by Mr Undercover

considering the great footage you get now-a-days at footy matches, tennis et al, when do you think they'll take the contract off Craggy Island productions and start providing the sort of professional service the sport deserves.... my holiday video footage could compete with these muppets.

by Mr Undercover

how convenient the fog at foslas obscuring the the final furlong.... is it really beyond the wit of man to position the cameras accordingly... you couldn't make it up.

be careful if in-play today, as a number of rigged races e.g. last race at MR was a complete fix in my view

by Mr Undercover

read some Dick Francis' books, it's all true.

That was blatant in my view. as i could see what was going on laid in running and backed out at evens for a nice profit.

by Mr Undercover"


Mr Undercover needs to get out and do a bit more undercover work to clean up the sport, imo.

Well perhaps i do weemac, i've certainly made my thoughts clear to some of the current key directors in the industry and i hope the fraud team at bf start to work more closely with the bha and jockey club to use data as they have been doing in other sports. It's a great shame in my view because i think the sport could be much bigger than it is, the uk/irl has the best racing infracture and product in the world it's integrity needs to be protected. If i can sit here and watch flagarent abuses then anyone can. If punters have a sense they've unfairly lost money then that's damaging for the sport.

I stand by all the comments, as negative as it may appear, i think newbies reading this forum need to be aware not all things are fair and it's easy to lose your shirt particularly in-play due to some unscrupulous behaviour.

[Dallas]

well, what a cwap day, absolutely wubbish

Only the one small loss but had to be quiet patient for the right oppertunities, but ones that did eventually come were quiet decent - hoping for better on the tennis

[gutuami]

sorry mate but for me was just the opposite. I sort of like these type of days

Are you more of a scalper?
Every move I got on just seemed like a mini move.

I definetly am going to work on being more versatile and adaptive. Days like this I can see the moves are not comming or going where I think yet I still try to push them. I generally try to only trade when liquidity hits when the last race has finished but with so many clashes I struggled. Every good trade today in which I made a profit in I think I gave atleast 4/5 tick away from not being defense and greed.

I would say something in the middle. Although I would like to adapt to take more long term positions.

[weemac]

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Well perhaps i do weemac, i've certainly made my thoughts clear to some of the current key directors in the industry and i hope the fraud team at bf start to work more closely with the bha and jockey club to use data as they have been doing in other sports. It's a great shame in my view because i think the sport could be much bigger than it is, the uk/irl has the best racing infracture and product in the world it's integrity needs to be protected. If i can sit here and watch flagarent abuses then anyone can. If punters have a sense they've unfairly lost money then that's damaging for the sport.

I stand by all the comments, as negative as it may appear, i think newbies reading this forum need to be aware not all things are fair and it's easy to lose your shirt particularly in-play due to some unscrupulous behaviour.
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Fair enough Mr Undercover - there is definitely a lot of skull-duggery going on, and there always has been. And at least you're trying to make newbies aware of it. At the same time, calling out every dubious event as 'fraud' or 'abuse' perhaps doesn't best serve your case.

[Mr Undercover]

I'm not humiliating anyone. I'm making a point about someone who feels that everything's against him in a particular activity continuing to participate in that very activity, while adopting a moniker which suggests he's well on top of the situation.

It's bizarre behaviour, but far from unusual.

Not humiliating but certainly patronising and superior but some people need to behave this way to cope with their own insecurities.

[Mr Undercover]

well, what a cwap day, absolutely wubbish

Only the one small loss but had to be quiet patient for the right oppertunities, but ones that did eventually come were quiet decent - hoping for better on the tennis

Ditto for me, a reasonably good day but only a few ticks most trades.

I'm increasing noticing this pattern Euler mentioned a few weeks back of the reversal trend in the last 1min or so, seems to be happen quite a lot presently to the point i can anticipate and jump on and grap an extra tick or two but i wonder what's causing this?

[PeterLe]

That last at Wolv...
Think it was a 1.01 loser and a 1000 to 1 winner...

[kerberus]

[I'm increasing noticing this pattern Euler mentioned a few weeks back of the reversal trend in the last 1min or so, seems to be happen quite a lot presently to the point i can anticipate and jump on and grap an extra tick or two but i wonder what's causing this?

Reckon this has been going in since October, I call he/she/they "Mr VTOL" - vertical take off and landing. I also use "Santa". Useful if you've got enough in you BF account. to make a spare quid or so. Slight change to his operation he's using a three trigger system. The "Splurge" comes when there's low resistance up/down - the he simply rolls the stack. He used to operate the evening/Sunday markets, now it seem to be whenever. I originally thought it was related to the "Price Rush" offer in the Sports Book. Need to set another 'Puter to check this theory. I generally us B2L - I can be sitting quite happily watching my green getting greener just "wafting" down to

WOLV 20.15.PNG

Gotcha - please feel to check with whoever has got recordinng or results or whateve - that chart shows a 2k spike just before the off

WOLV 20.15 LADDER.PNG

Those spikes catch B2Lers because they are vertical and you only realise if you are caught by them. Instantly a green turns red, now you have a choice pile in and go in-play - and pray.
Or take a loss.

[SeaHorseRacing]

I am completely lost tbh but I have noticed alot of my back to lays recently are having this similar behaviour.

[kerberus]

He's not a problem if you know he's about for instance - this is not him. #:-

wolv 20.45 strictly carter.PNG

Not him - Wolves 20.45, that spike is 20.41 - standard mad rush in betting shops. Bookies balancing books,. Normal stuff. And it's the favorite. Ho-Hum territory. VTOL usually targets weak 2nd/3rd favourites. He also goes between "crossover points" 2, 3, 4, 6, 10 etc. He'll take a 6.4 through to 7 - 7.5 for instance -- dunno why? It's irritatating more than anything else because I like to green first and use in-play to fine tune. Usually prefer to have two nicely loaded "Bankers". Bl**dy annoying to have to waste time rescuing a situation when it suddenly reverses beyond green into red. Also the last 60 second means wasting time loading up my BF A/c to deal with a nuisance factor. Also started watching video coverage (I've sounded off today about it) - never used to bother when I used a single machine - the radio IS better - video sounds and looks like a fashion show ) but now I keep an eye on the loading process.

[ruthlessimon]

Those spikes catch B2Lers because they are vertical and you only realise if you are caught by them. Instantly a green turns red, now you have a choice pile in and go in-play - and pray.
Or take a loss.

yeah lost me with that but if you can turn it into a opportunity & make some money, kudos! what trading's all about! Although I think Peter's video was more aimed at exploiting profit taking

[ShaunWhite]

Also the last 60 second means wasting time loading up my BF A/c to deal with a nuisance factor.

What did this bit mean ?