Taunton 14:30 Lay to Back?

[JollyGreen]

Its important to understand when I say things they sometimes may come accross not they way I intend to say it.

I am extremely grateful for the post because it made me go back and look and if I saw it earlier would have had more on Skint. I think your spot on the money and if I see a late gamble come I am going to D.O.B Tactical Manoeuvre, would never back the horse to win though. If i could take odds on it to fall I would.

Good to have you back.

I totally understood what you said and I think you made your point very well. I never have a problem with a different opinion just so long as it is not derogatory or insulting and your post was certainly very fair and well written!

Skint ran well!

As I suspected, Tactical Manoeuvre simply cannot jump a fence!

[JollyGreen]

Watched this race and JG your write up was absolutely spot on, travelled quite well for the first circuit but chucked in a few shocking jumps and that was that, nice call.

Cheers! Hope you made a few ££s

SHR was also spot on with Skint, money came for it and it ran better than its handicap mark suggests!

[JollyGreen]

Thank you Khanivore, I hope it provided a small profit for you

[SeaHorseRacing]

Great call JG. Thats the power of watching horses video form. I dont ge much time to look at it. Well done.

[kerberus]

Cheers JG

[Halliday]

I read the post about finding a loser and having replied had a quick scan of today's cards. The Taunton 14:30 caught my eye because of Tactical Manoeuvre's position as favourite. At 4.0-4.5 there is no value in the price IMHO. It has never won a race and despite some small support last time out was soundly beaten into third. It is returning to fences today after a fruitless hurdles campaign. Just a quick look at the handicap mark and I cannot see how it can win; there would need to be some big change in its well-being if today is the day. After two chase attempts it records Pulled-up and Fell as its form!

I quickly watched its two chase runs and something really stood out for me. This horse struggles to make a shape over a fence, it travels okay but if it meets a fence wrong it really struggles to adjust and handle the transition. I looked closer and it's near rear nearly does a circle at times, the horse has poor conformation and the legs rolls out to the side instead of being in-line. This could be a back injury or even a slight deformity but it could explain why it struggles with fences and cannot make the correct jump.

I am not saying lay this with your whole bank but if you lay pre-race around 4.0 - 5.0 I am sure you can get a better price in running. If you watch the race you will soon learn if it is jumping correctly or if its near rear is still flicking out to the left!

I am going for the straight lay as I know long term I will profit from this type of runner.

Good luck if you play

JG
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Taunton Stewards report from the above race

Race 2 - 2:30pm.
THE CLARKE WILLMOTT LLP HANDICAP STEEPLE CHASE (CLASS 5)
The Veterinary Officer reported that TACTICAL MANOEUVRE (IRE), which was pulled up, trained by Alexandra Dunn, had bled from the nose.

Clearly the horse had a problem today and you can forget that run.

Agree he needs to polish up his jumping but on some of his back PTP form in Ireland he could be a potentially well handicapped horse, fell at the last at Kirkistown in a race win by Clondaw Bisto, who is now with Suzy Smith and rated 115.

The form of his previous race is working out well with both the 1st and 4th winning races, and the trainer picked out the horse in her stable tour as one to watch .

So wouldn't write him off yet , once he gets over his problems could yet win a race .

Incidentally it always pays to read the stewards reports at the end if each day

[Halliday]

I read the post about finding a loser and having replied had a quick scan of today's cards. The Taunton 14:30 caught my eye because of Tactical Manoeuvre's position as favourite. At 4.0-4.5 there is no value in the price IMHO. It has never won a race and despite some small support last time out was soundly beaten into third. It is returning to fences today after a fruitless hurdles campaign. Just a quick look at the handicap mark and I cannot see how it can win; there would need to be some big change in its well-being if today is the day. After two chase attempts it records Pulled-up and Fell as its form!

I quickly watched its two chase runs and something really stood out for me. This horse struggles to make a shape over a fence, it travels okay but if it meets a fence wrong it really struggles to adjust and handle the transition. I looked closer and it's near rear nearly does a circle at times, the horse has poor conformation and the legs rolls out to the side instead of being in-line. This could be a back injury or even a slight deformity but it could explain why it struggles with fences and cannot make the correct jump.

I am not saying lay this with your whole bank but if you lay pre-race around 4.0 - 5.0 I am sure you can get a better price in running. If you watch the race you will soon learn if it is jumping correctly or if its near rear is still flicking out to the left!

I am going for the straight lay as I know long term I will profit from this type of runner.

Good luck if you play

JG
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Taunton Stewards report from the above race

Race 2 - 2:30pm.
THE CLARKE WILLMOTT LLP HANDICAP STEEPLE CHASE (CLASS 5)
The Veterinary Officer reported that TACTICAL MANOEUVRE (IRE), which was pulled up, trained by Alexandra Dunn, had bled from the nose.

Clearly the horse had a problem today and you can forget that run.

Agree he needs to polish up his jumping but on some of his back PTP form in Ireland he could be a potentially well handicapped horse, fell at the last at Kirkistown in a race win by Clondaw Bisto, who is now with Suzy Smith and rated 115.

The form of his previous race is working out well with both the 1st and 4th winning races, and the trainer picked out the horse in her stable tour as one to watch .

So wouldn't write him off yet , once he gets over his problems could yet win a race .

Incidentally it always pays to read the stewards reports at the end if each day

Won nicely at Exeter today,not foot perfect,but travelled well.Engaged in a similar race at Newton Abbot on Saturday.Trainer has always thought he was a decent horse.
Better ground and back over hurdles,might finally start to show the promise he did in PTP in Ireland

[JollyGreen]

He did run well but he's in bargain basement form levels and I doubt this race will amount to much. He will have to stick with hurdles as you can see he still gets stuck at a few hurdles

[Halliday]

He did run well but he's in bargain basement form levels and I doubt this race will amount to much. He will have to stick with hurdles as you can see he still gets stuck at a few hurdles

Hes was only rated 90 for that race,and will surely go up more than the penalty he will carry if he turns out on Saturday.Agreed it was a poor race he won,just depends how much the handicapper puts him up.
But at least hes won a race.