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RentonT wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:27 pm
 I could give you the basic idea of the strategy without giving away too much behind it and you can watch it pan out.
I've just fired up BA & am awaiting instructions. looks like a nasty competitive race to me! 8-)
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Koratt

Trading is difficult if you try to take on the market unless you have the funds to push the price around... but that's the same in all financial markets (unless you have inside knowledge)... I found it only paid off for me when I can dip in and out without being noticed... you can't make a living from that approach, but you can turn a profit quite easily... to make more what you should look for is when the market over extends (which it does regularly)... ask yourself the question: when the market gets it wrong will I win more than I will lose when it gets it right... and then define to yourself what the rules are for when a market gets it wrong (or right)... unfortunately that comes from analysis... I'm not going give you my definition/rule set... Don't just think scalping or swinging, that is narrowing your options.... but if you take the premise I mentioned then you have many avenues to profit...

Trust me... it can be done.
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RentonT wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:42 pm
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I must say, solid work. shhhhhh keep the syndicates away!
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I'm laughing at the screenshot as it doesn't really have anything to do with the strategy - but I like your work because it acts like a red herring and keeps the secret 8-)

It worked like an absolute dream there!!!!!

Peter I sent you a message/email through your website before the race.
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ajdal wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:49 pm
 Koratt

Trading is difficult if you try to take on the market unless you have the funds to push the price around... but that's the same in all financial markets (unless you have inside knowledge)... I found it only paid off for me when I can dip in and out without being noticed... you can't make a living from that approach, but you can turn a profit quite easily... to make more what you should look for is when the market over extends (which it does regularly)... ask yourself the question: when the market gets it wrong will I win more than I will lose when it gets it right... and then define to yourself what the rules are for when a market gets it wrong (or right)... unfortunately that comes from analysis... I'm not going give you my definition/rule set... Don't just think scalping or swinging, that is narrowing your options.... but if you take the premise I mentioned then you have many avenues to profit...

Trust me... it can be done.
so where am I able to research "when a market gets it wrong"
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RentonT wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:27 pm
 Peter I would love to partially run it by you - I know you don't accept private messages but can I email or something? The 7:45 at Wolves provides a near on perfect example and there are only about 4 opportunities a week.

I could give you the basic idea of the strategy without giving away too much behind it and you can watch it pan out.
Personally I wouldn't run it passed anyone, if you really have found something that works then keep trading it until it no longer works and if it cant be fixed then you can tell people if you really feel the need to. If you find something that works don't tell anybody, it has a far better chance of lasting a while if you keep it to yourself. Some really smart people are always studying the betting markets though, so chances are it will eventually be found. You may even have given too much away already, you can be sure some people will be looking at that race to see why you consider it a near perfect race.
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nah, it would be impossible for me to replicate what Renton told me. I've got no doubts he has an incredible data bank to make the call he made on the 19:45.
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RentonT wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:05 pm
 I'm laughing at the screenshot as it doesn't really have anything to do with the strategy - but I like your work because it acts like a red herring and keeps the secret 8-)

It worked like an absolute dream there!!!!!

Peter I sent you a message/email through your website before the race.
So you are talking about a really specialised edge?
Would love to know more
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Korattt wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:31 pm
 been looking for an answer on YouTube for a solution on the random card game trick which was promised, think that was nigh on three months ago, maybe before Christmas even
I revealed it in one of my comments below the video ;)
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Korattt wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:17 pm
so where am I able to research "when a market gets it wrong"
What I did was took the historical data from Betfair initially and imported it into a sql database, integrated data scraped from other sources and passed it all into IBM SPSS Modeler... and looked for correlations... and I can tell you it took me bloody ages...

Why don't you start: Open a thread and explain how you currently select your trades... the very act of defining what you do is the first stage... you will probably find it more helpful than you think...

I don't visit this forum all that often, but I will try and reply when possible.
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Korattt wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:17 pm
ajdal wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:49 pm
 Koratt

Trading is difficult if you try to take on the market unless you have the funds to push the price around... but that's the same in all financial markets (unless you have inside knowledge)... I found it only paid off for me when I can dip in and out without being noticed... you can't make a living from that approach, but you can turn a profit quite easily... to make more what you should look for is when the market over extends (which it does regularly)... ask yourself the question: when the market gets it wrong will I win more than I will lose when it gets it right... and then define to yourself what the rules are for when a market gets it wrong (or right)... unfortunately that comes from analysis... I'm not going give you my definition/rule set... Don't just think scalping or swinging, that is narrowing your options.... but if you take the premise I mentioned then you have many avenues to profit...

Trust me... it can be done.
so where am I able to research "when a market gets it wrong"
Brexit, Trump, Portugal Euro 2016, markets got it wrong. A few posters on the forum got it right on Brexit and Trump, not sure about Portugal 2016 though!
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some stupid backer in the markets. I am glad he is loosing as it distorts these weak markets a lot.
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:09 pm
 some stupid backer in the markets. I am glad he is loosing as it distorts these weak markets a lot.
Was nt trading the racing this afternoon, was there any particular pattern or runner what he/she was backing?
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just now at weth 16:20 last seconds boom 18k.
usually fav with odds under 3. on one ocasion at straford the fav was drifting and and just beaten in with 2 stakes of 15k
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