Who says trading dogs is a waste of time?

We've gone to the dogs.
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welshboy06
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Dallas wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:41 pm
welshboy06 wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:38 pm
Im going to play around with the stop loss, trick is setting it so I don't cancel out a position that has only momentarily gone against me.
Have a look at setting something like this up to do that
http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 56&t=11954
Thanks Dallas. This looks spot on! I've scoured theses forums for months, can't believe I didn't see that. Cheers


cybernet69 wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:42 pm
welshboy06 wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:38 pm
cybernet69 wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:27 pm


Read your sentence again, you have the answer, if you look closely enough. ;)
Yeah I realise that the big chunks of money sitting in the 3rd price is a big indicator. But if it already taken a position and expecting the price to drop, then the money comes in and it drifts 10-20 ticks then I have to take the loss.
The price usually comes In a bit after that, but never close to where I entered.

Im going to play around with the stop loss, trick is setting it so I don't cancel out a position that has only momentarily gone against me.
Greyhounds = Favourite + LTA + WOM (Inner and Middle Only) = Place your trade at LTP or nip in front if the LTA is above average. Base your TP and SL on LTP and not current back/lay odds.
Yeah I saw something about only basing your WOM indicator on inner and middle. I'm guessing that this is done in settings? Change all the weightings from 33% to 50/50 for inner and middle and 0% for outer?

Cheers! You've been a great help the past few weeks Mike. Really appreciate it
YESWAY
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What is the reason to have different volume matched on every race ?
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YESWAY
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Compared to Memphis.
cybernet69

welshboy06 wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:50 pm
Dallas wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:41 pm
welshboy06 wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:38 pm
Im going to play around with the stop loss, trick is setting it so I don't cancel out a position that has only momentarily gone against me.
Have a look at setting something like this up to do that
http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 56&t=11954
Thanks Dallas. This looks spot on! I've scoured theses forums for months, can't believe I didn't see that. Cheers


cybernet69 wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:42 pm
welshboy06 wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:38 pm


Yeah I realise that the big chunks of money sitting in the 3rd price is a big indicator. But if it already taken a position and expecting the price to drop, then the money comes in and it drifts 10-20 ticks then I have to take the loss.
The price usually comes In a bit after that, but never close to where I entered.

Im going to play around with the stop loss, trick is setting it so I don't cancel out a position that has only momentarily gone against me.
Greyhounds = Favourite + LTA + WOM (Inner and Middle Only) = Place your trade at LTP or nip in front if the LTA is above average. Base your TP and SL on LTP and not current back/lay odds.
Yeah I saw something about only basing your WOM indicator on inner and middle. I'm guessing that this is done in settings? Change all the weightings from 33% to 50/50 for inner and middle and 0% for outer?

Cheers! You've been a great help the past few weeks Mike. Really appreciate it
When I calculate the WOM I use all the money on Inner and Middle, totally ignoring the outer (3rd) column. I just use the WOM for confirmation, the big indicator is the LTA.
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Naffman
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It looks like his bot only updates a few second after the official off whereas yours is a few minutes :)
cybernet69

Naffman wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:10 pm
It looks like his bot only updates a few second after the official off whereas yours is a few minutes :)
Me ?
YESWAY
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"cybernet69" What would LTA, TP and SL present ?
cybernet69

YESWAY wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:28 pm
"cybernet69" What would LTA, TP and SL present ?
LTA = Last Traded Amount. Currently you don't have access to that in Guardian automation but could do it via Excel etc.
TP = Take Profit or Offset
SL = Stoploss
YESWAY
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Can you share spreadsheet that can calculate LTA to the public ?
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Naffman
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cybernet69 wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:17 pm
Naffman wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:10 pm
It looks like his bot only updates a few second after the official off whereas yours is a few minutes :)
Me ?
No Yesway's question :)
YESWAY
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No, it is GBP vs EUR. Sorry, my mistake.
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Naffman
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Ah right that explains it!
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Dallas
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Average traded volume per race during each hour of the day
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deggsy10
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Very confused. How on earth are you supposed to trade on greyhounds with so little liquidity? I have just opened up a greyhound race out of curiosity. The race had only 2 mins to go before the off and the total amount of money matched was £25! Even with 30 seconds left it had still only gone up to £1000. There were also gaps all over the place and no money at all on the lay side.
cybernet69

deggsy10 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:49 pm
Very confused. How on earth are you supposed to trade on greyhounds with so little liquidity? I have just opened up a greyhound race out of curiosity. The race had only 2 mins to go before the off and the total amount of money matched was £25! Even with 30 seconds left it had still only gone up to £1000. There were also gaps all over the place and no money at all on the lay side.
Wait for races that have minimum of 5k matched, place trades from 2 minutes out. But beware dogs very difficult to master.
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