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Iron
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Let's say that I don't want a bookmaker to realise that I've opened a second account after I've shut down a first one.

How do I prevent them from noticing that I'm connecting from the same computer as I did previously? For example, could I change my IP address?

Thanks in advance.

Jeff
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dan_payne182
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Dependant on whether your ISP will let you have a dynamic IP or not. Easiest way to find out if you have a dynamic IP:


Click the Windows "Start" button and select "Run." In the text box, enter "cmd" and press the "OK" button


Type "ipconfig /all" and press "Enter." One line item shown is "DHCP Enabled." If the information displayed is "Yes," then you have a dynamic IP address.


if it is dynamic then search the internet for instructions of how to change your IP at will. If its static like mine then there's not much you can do, maybe going through a proxy? but then all your log in and card details are going through there too, so i never tried. :geek:
Iron
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Thanks Dan

Is the IP address the only thing a website can use to determine that the connection is coming from my computer?

Thanks

Jeff
dan_payne182 wrote:Dependant on whether your ISP will let you have a dynamic IP or not. Easiest way to find out if you have a dynamic IP:


Click the Windows "Start" button and select "Run." In the text box, enter "cmd" and press the "OK" button


Type "ipconfig /all" and press "Enter." One line item shown is "DHCP Enabled." If the information displayed is "Yes," then you have a dynamic IP address.


if it is dynamic then search the internet for instructions of how to change your IP at will. If its static like mine then there's not much you can do, maybe going through a proxy? but then all your log in and card details are going through there too, so i never tried. :geek:
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dan_payne182
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i'm pretty sure its the only thing they can see to identify you yes
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CaerMyrddin
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That's not 100% true...

They can also track you down base on your macacddress, or ieSnare.

I wouldn't risk to open a second account...
Iron
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Thanks guys

You can deal with IeSnare using the information on this page: http://mafiawars.wikia.com/wiki/Iesnare

Do Macaddresses apply purely to Macs?

Jeff
CaerMyrddin wrote:That's not 100% true...

They can also track you down base on your macacddress, or ieSnare.

I wouldn't risk to open a second account...
kirbyrix
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Hi Jeff

Chances are you will have a dynamically allocated IP address, but it may change rarely. Check www.whatismyip.com to see your publicly routable address. If you have a router then the router will most likely do something called network address translation (NAT) which effectively translates a public IP address to private addresses on your internal PC/s. If you run an ipconfig /all command you will probably see something like 192.168.1.3 which is not a publicly routable address, it is a NAT'd address. The MAC address is nothing to do with Apple Macs and is in fact a unique code burnt into the ROM of your network card (NIC). Every NIC in the world has a unique code.

Your best bet to put the Bookies off the scent is to set up a virtual machine or have another machine that you can connect to elsewhere on the internet, then simply conduct your business from that.

Cheers
Iron
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Thanks Kirbyrix

I have a dynamic IP address. However, if I visit a website, would by Mac address normally be revealed to the people running the website?

Jeff
kirbyrix wrote:Hi Jeff

Chances are you will have a dynamically allocated IP address, but it may change rarely. Check http://www.whatismyip.com to see your publicly routable address. If you have a router then the router will most likely do something called network address translation (NAT) which effectively translates a public IP address to private addresses on your internal PC/s. If you run an ipconfig /all command you will probably see something like 192.168.1.3 which is not a publicly routable address, it is a NAT'd address. The MAC address is nothing to do with Apple Macs and is in fact a unique code burnt into the ROM of your network card (NIC). Every NIC in the world has a unique code.

Your best bet to put the Bookies off the scent is to set up a virtual machine or have another machine that you can connect to elsewhere on the internet, then simply conduct your business from that.

Cheers
kirbyrix
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Hi Jeff

No, MAC addresses do not pass between routed network segments and can only be seen by other devices on the same subnet, meaning that internet connected machines outside your local subnet will not see your local MAC addresses.

That said if you visited a website that attempted to run a script or other control, it is perfectly possible for the website to capture your MAC code so you would be well advised to increase your security in your browser to block running of any sort of script (Active X, JAVA etc) or at least prompt you.

Hope this helps
Online Trader
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Jeff

Given that if they do suss you out they will ban you again and keep any money in the account you need to ask yourself is it worth it :?:
Iron
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That is a consideration, I grant you. :) The trick will be to regularly empty my account!

But first I need to get legal advice, to make sure that there's no way I'll end up in court over this!

Jeff
Online Trader wrote:Jeff

Given that if they do suss you out they will ban you again and keep any money in the account you need to ask yourself is it worth it :?:
Iron
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Thanks Kirby Rix

Jeff
kirbyrix wrote:Hi Jeff

No, MAC addresses do not pass between routed network segments and can only be seen by other devices on the same subnet, meaning that internet connected machines outside your local subnet will not see your local MAC addresses.

That said if you visited a website that attempted to run a script or other control, it is perfectly possible for the website to capture your MAC code so you would be well advised to increase your security in your browser to block running of any sort of script (Active X, JAVA etc) or at least prompt you.

Hope this helps
kirbyrix
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No worries Jeff.

One thing you could do is go to a site like http://vectroproxy.com/

Then enter the bookies address into the field. This will take you to the site via an anonymous proxy so the site will record the originating IP of the proxy rather than yours.

If you type www.whatismyip.com into the field on this site it gives you a completely different address to your own.

That should keep the bookies from associating your old and new account.

Cheers
Iron
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Thanks KirbyRix

Jeff
kirbyrix wrote:No worries Jeff.

One thing you could do is go to a site like http://vectroproxy.com/

Then enter the bookies address into the field. This will take you to the site via an anonymous proxy so the site will record the originating IP of the proxy rather than yours.

If you type http://www.whatismyip.com into the field on this site it gives you a completely different address to your own.

That should keep the bookies from associating your old and new account.

Cheers
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