Living in London

[ShaunWhite]

I remember buying a pack of cigs for 56p.

Happy days, 10 Embassy for 20p, bag of chips 10p. That said my paper round only paid £1.20 a week so it's all relative.

[BetScalper]

Clearly most of you who have posted to this thread see things from a very different angle. I don't think the fact that I'm of Asian origin has anything to do with it because most white people I know in London don't have any issues living there and couldn't care less what religion their neighbours are!

I've kept schtum until now because everyone is entitled to an opinion ....

I had 25 very happy years in London, in beautiful sunny Croydon mainly, epicentre for everyone new who arrives. I knew nice people and complete shits of every colour and creed. It worked because it was a real mixture, various economic and cultural reasons lead to ghettoisation and that's what bothers people and that's understandable. It's the same story now I live of near Bostonski, high density of one type of immigrants, and locals obvioulsy scared of losing their tradiations, but very very few locals actually have a problem with individual 'foreigners', like the ones who stayed here after the war and fitted in.

btw racism isn't a white only thing, we're actually some of the most accepting, every race seemed to have someone else that especially bothered them. To be honest my black friends were the worst, Indians we're their bugbear.

Given a choice I'd have a cultural revolution and ban all religion, or just the Abrahmic ones, all as bad as each other in the wrong hands. Even in the 21st century we've got to tiptoe round the bloody Catholics and Protestants in Ireland about the border because we're scared of their bombings and executions, which the older guys here will remember well.

But as we can't do much about it, Taoism seems to be the best option. Make the most of whatever way the wind blows you.

I think everyone is playing up the Northern Ireland issue. Times have changed and surveillance technique's certainly have since I served there.

Back then everyone and their dog knew who the ring leaders were but they hid across the border and there was an agreement that we wouldn't go and get them. Although I do believe on a few occasions a certain unit did cross over and shoot a few unofficially, which was blamed on a loyalist group.

[Emmson]

Noteworthy how this thread attracts posts the way most other sports trading threads do not despite it being a sports trading forum. Not chiming in myself because I'm fully aware of how things can turn nasty when politics are discussed on here.

[Trader Pat]

Not chiming in myself because I'm fully aware of how things can turn nasty when politics are discussed on here.

Very wise

[Derek27]

I remember buying a pack of cigs for 56p.

Happy days, 10 Embassy for 20p, bag of chips 10p. That said my paper round only paid £1.20 a week so it's all relative.

10 Sovereign, nine-and-a-half pence!

[Iron]

Can't see how you'd say that considering New York's homicide rate is 3x London's.

That used to be the case.

London's murder rate recently overtook New York's.

[spreadbetting]

Can't see how you'd say that considering New York's homicide rate is 3x London's.

That used to be the case.

London's murder rate recently overtook New York's.

Only for one cherry picked month , Jeff, hardly an in depth statistical analysis but I doubt that's the angle the Times and Mail were aiming for.

[Iron]

For two months, actually, according to the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43610936

BTW, London murder rate has risen in the last 4 years (though that may be due to Sadiq Khan's policies rather than unfettered immigration): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_ ... 0-2017.png

It's interesting that the number of stop and searches have tumbled in that period: https://www.stateofglobe.com/london-mur ... st-author/

Jeff

Only for one cherry picked month , Jeff, hardly an in depth statistical analysis but I doubt that's the angle the Times and Mail were aiming for.

[BetScalper]

One problem for London is gun crime. It increased by 42% from 2016 to 2017 with 2,544 recorded offences.

Many are converting unlicensed Airguns to very high power levels by watching YouTube videos and importing custom pneumatic parts.

Its now very easy to make a .25/.30 calibre pellet travel at more than 850 fps.

If you get hit by one of those at < 50m then your chances are slim.

And as they started off life as unlicensed, there are no background checks or paperwork needed for importing parts.

[sa7med]

BTW, London murder rate has risen in the last 4 years (though that may be due to Sadiq Khan's policies rather than unfettered immigration): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_ ... 0-2017.png

That's pretty rich considering he's been mayor for only 2 years. I'm not supporting the guy but is it fair to blame him for a trend that was developing before he became mayor?

I wonder if it could have anything to do with an 18% decline in funding of police forces since 2011?
https://fullfact.org/crime/police-fundi ... and-wales/

[spreadbetting]

If we actually take population into account London is way down the list of UK murder cities but let's forget London has a massive population.

[spreadbetting]

BTW, London murder rate has risen in the last 4 years (though that may be due to Sadiq Khan's policies rather than unfettered immigration): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_ ... 0-2017.png

That's pretty rich considering he's been mayor for only 2 years. I'm not supporting the guy but is it fair to blame him for a trend that was developing before he became mayor?

I wonder if it could have anything to do with an 18% decline in funding of police forces since 2011?
https://fullfact.org/crime/police-fundi ... and-wales/

Nah, it's cos he's a muslim

[BetScalper]

BTW, London murder rate has risen in the last 4 years (though that may be due to Sadiq Khan's policies rather than unfettered immigration): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_ ... 0-2017.png

That's pretty rich considering he's been mayor for only 2 years. I'm not supporting the guy but is it fair to blame him for a trend that was developing before he became mayor?

I wonder if it could have anything to do with an 18% decline in funding of police forces since 2011?
https://fullfact.org/crime/police-fundi ... and-wales/

Not really. Back in the 1990s a new Mayor cleaned up New Yorks murder rate and gun crime in 6 months.

Although I don't think Amnesty International approved of some of the methods used:

- Mass stop and search.
- 3 strikes and a whole life sentence with no parole.
- Shoot first and worry about them being armed or not later.
- Rounding up and interrogating known criminals for information on drug dealing and illegal firearms.
- Recruiting and training an additional 8,000 police officers.
- Very long prison sentences for carrying knives in a public place with no good reason.
- Every night more than 100 police officers patrolling central park.

[Iron]

Nah, I think Jeff's right it's cos he's a muslim

What an odious comment.

I would never judge a person or their suitability for a job on their religion.

[spreadbetting]

Oh dear, Jeff, I do apologise, I guess it's easy to jump to conclusions from the little things we read.