Betfair Down / Betfair site crash

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Derek27
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Personally I find the API status page can be a bit slow. I noticed the API was down at 2:34pm on Saturday and four minutes later nothing on the status page.

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ShaunWhite
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Yep totally agree, it's not great and it's unreliable.... But it's something and sometimes it's useful. You and I know about it but one guy who got caught didn't even know outages happened! I try to post useful things for people like that. I'm not learning anything by doing it.

.. with that, and keeping auto sp closing bets I'm just trying to think of some practical things to do, moaning doesn't seem to be achieving much. This thread is like a survivers of abuse meeting,

Has anyone else got any cunning ideas? What precautions do you take Peter that you can share? I'd rather put a whiteboard up and try to deal with it at least in some small way than just sit around and act like victims.
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Probably a very stupid idea but....

I assume BF know 70% of the time that something is not right and therefore it’s going to go down sooner rather than later due to infrastructure or server load issues.

Assuming they do then why can’t they start a procedure to void new bets and automatically close out existing trades so at least people have the least possible exposure. This should apply to traders and straight back or layers.

When I worked for Shazam they had 16 servers linked to a giant load monitor which set off an alarm if one or more of the servers was struggling well before it actually broke etc.
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BetScalper wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 8:32 am
Probably a very stupid idea but....

I assume BF know 70% of the time that something is not right and therefore it’s going to go down sooner rather than later due to infrastructure or server load issues.

Assuming they do then why can’t they start a procedure to void new bets and automatically close out existing trades so at least people have the least possible exposure. This should apply to traders and straight back or layers.

When I worked for Shazam they had 16 servers linked to a giant load monitor which set off an alarm if one or more of the servers was struggling well before it actually broke etc.
Not everyone who uses Betfair is a trader. Someone who backed a 20-1 winner would be furious if instead of winning it was closed for a loss.
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I think the concept of voiding all bets is to make it as painful as possible for Betfair so that they improve service. It's got nothing to do with the fairness of bets struck. if people have genuine bets that are voided then they will put there business elsewhere and that will act as another incentive for Betfair to up their game.
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Euler
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BTW and a case in point. Betfair's API streaming is down at the moment.
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Derek27
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Euler wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 1:04 pm
I think the concept of voiding all bets is to make it as painful as possible for Betfair so that they improve service. It's got nothing to do with the fairness of bets struck. if people have genuine bets that are voided then they will put there business elsewhere and that will act as another incentive for Betfair to up their game.
That's why they would never do it, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot.
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 1:24 pm
That's why they would never do it, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot.
Yes exactly. If look at other forums then you will see that a lot of people are obsessed with bookies voiding their bets, even if there are valid reasons.
They would hate it maybe even more than the traders here hate outages and betfair would immediately use a lot of volume.
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to75ne
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could all this discussion be moved to another thread, as everytime i see a new post i am expecting to see reports of real problems with the site, this is watering down the whole purpose of this thread - to warn of crash's and possible crash's etc.
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Kai
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The way this year is going we're practically going to need a dedicated app or something that will specifically monitor Betfair's stability.
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Derek27
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to75ne wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 3:45 pm
could all this discussion be moved to another thread, as everytime i see a new post i am expecting to see reports of real problems with the site, this is watering down the whole purpose of this thread - to warn of crash's and possible crash's etc.
Perhaps in future when there's a major outage, somebody can start a new thread: Betfair outage: 18th May 2019.

I have a feeling this discussion could be active until the next outage. ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 12:35 pm
BetScalper wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 8:32 am
Probably a very stupid idea but....

I assume BF know 70% of the time that something is not right and therefore it’s going to go down sooner rather than later due to infrastructure or server load issues.

Assuming they do then why can’t they start a procedure to void new bets and automatically close out existing trades so at least people have the least possible exposure. This should apply to traders and straight back or layers.

When I worked for Shazam they had 16 servers linked to a giant load monitor which set off an alarm if one or more of the servers was struggling well before it actually broke etc.
Not everyone who uses Betfair is a trader. Someone who backed a 20-1 winner would be furious if instead of winning it was closed for a loss.
Problem is you can’t please everyone which is why I doubt BF are going todo anything about it.

Basically you place your bets/trades and hope all goes well or go elsewhere etc.
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MAJOR OUTAGE - all credit to Betfair for getting through Saturday afternoon. ;)
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Here we go again, all football matches suspended !!
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f@@@k! again, for a moment I thought it is my internet connection ,I am caught this time
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