Ability to retrieve matched bets column in Excel

Discussion regarding the spreadsheet functionality of Bet Angel.
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silvermark
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Hi,

Is it at all possible to retrieve the matched bets column in BetAngel through the Excel capability?

Thanks, Mark.
donfede
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I need the answer too.

Matched bets is one of the main variables I need to retrieve for my discriminant analysis, or Altmann Z-score.

I will let you guys know if my analysis paid off.
donfede
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How come nobody knows the answer?
Is it impossible to retrieve matched bets columns in excel???
Nero Tulip
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Currently it is impossible to do. BetAngel doesn't have it in the current version. There's been talk for some time about finding ways to include it. If you can make good design additions to the current sheet showing where and how you would display them and send it to their support email address they might appreciate the effort?

I would also love to have this feature, it would add greatly to my ability to analyse and also to the management of my positions, which is currently restricted.
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Work in progress.
Darko
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Great! Thx :)
JacoboPolavieja
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Yeap! Totally waiting for it! Thanks a lot!
alps
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Any progress?
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We still have performance concerns with implementing this, so we are still looking at it.
bepo
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Is there any progress on this?
donfede
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Can I hire someone to do this job? or Is it simply impossible to have cells on excel that indicate the amount matched due to restrictions on betangel?

Am I going to waste my money?
Thanks
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TheTub
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Well, unmatched and matched bet data is not fed to the spreadsheet from Bet Angel. So if you pay someone who says they can do it then you will be wasting your money.

I had a look at this and the obstacles are not insignificant. Where do you put all the data? In one horse race alone, you may have hundreds of bets, partial matches, backs and lays. ALL ON ONE RUNNER.

If you are dutching or bookmaking you may have hundreds of bets on ALL runners. How would you manage all this data?

I'm talking about price, stake, bet reference for matched, unmatched, back and lay. If all this is updated several times per second, or even once per second then I can see a considerable performance impact.

So, should there be a sheet for each runner? This could soon make a system stop with large markets.

Or maybe just a log sheet. That updates with all matched bets and unmatched bets in a particular market. We could then write code to sort out what is matched by runner. But if a bet is matched it would need to have it's 'unmatched' log entry updated instantly otherwise incorrect triggers could be set off. I can see where performance issues may come into this.

Or perhaps just a list of market runners with four columns - total matched, total unmatched. For Back and Lay bets. This would mean losing the bet reference, price matched at and so on but might be easier to implement?

Or perhaps an extra instruction. DATA_ALL or DATA_BACK and that populates a sheet with unmatched data for just that one time rather than a constant stream of performance troubling data?

Maybe someone else can think of something better?
donfede
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statistics packages like SPSS or databases can handle that data. Sorting or handling data is not a big issue I believe.

Too bad matched bets can't be exported elsewhere.

But you are right. It will be quite cumbersome and tedious and even not practical...
hwibye
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Hi

I am very keen on getting the Odds fill in column P in the Excel sheet not only for the bets immediately filled but for all bets. Showing only some of the bets is only a Part solution. ¨
Thanks for a great BetAngel program with Excel.
HW :D
donfede
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sorry I quite didn't get that!

Column P? What exactly are you able to do in excel regarding matched bets?
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