Scalp at the Top & Bottom of a Range Guardian Automation Bot

[Atm1981]

Ok i create an entry back bet with your sample file. Do I need to put a time on the scratch trade or leave it 0?

My back bet enter when the best available price money reduces by an amount. Just for testing scratch trade functionality.

Thank you again for quick response

Would you mind if I send you a pm about setting up my method later as don't want to post it publicly ?

[Dallas]

Ok i create an entry back bet with your sample file. Do I need to put a time on the scratch trade or leave it 0?

My back bet enter when the best available price money reduces by an amount. Just for testing scratch trade functionality.

Thank you again for quick response

Would you mind if I send you a pm about setting up my method later as don't want to post it publicly ?

It can be armed for the same durations as the back/lay bets are, if you included the signal details advised earlier that will keep it to only being able to trigger after an opening bet is tiggered

I'm happy for you to send a PM but its fair to let you know because of the amount I receive it can take several days before I'll even get to open it.

[Atm1981]

Sorry me again:)

How do add the wom of money to this , as I want to only enter the trade if either side increases by 30% ?

Also how to do I create a stop loss to be 2 ticks from the bottom of current range for lay bet and 2 ticks away from the top range for the back bet ?

Thanks

[Dallas]

Sorry me again:)

How do add the wom of money to this , as I want to only enter the trade if either side increases by 30% ?

Also how to do I create a stop loss to be 2 ticks from the bottom of current range for lay bet and 2 ticks away from the top range for the back bet ?

Thanks

The WOM figure will bounce about a lot so adding a 30% increase will unlikely help in any way, but you could add a WOM condition is greater than 70% on the lay bet and WOM condition is less than 30% on the back bet
Will will prevent them from triggering until that's satisfied.

There is already a Stop Loss of 3 ticks on the original file, so just changing this to 2 on the parameters tab will do it

[Atm1981]

Thanks again how do I set the file to stop trading if I made two successful trades or if I made 4 tick loss? I want it to stop trading that market If two successful trades or 4 tick loss? Is that possible ?

If I use liability set to 70% that will place a bet on the lay side using say £70 of my 100 bank, this won't stop me matching the offset as have £30 available?

[Dallas]

Thanks again how do I set the file to stop trading if I made two successful trades or if I made 4 tick loss? I want it to stop trading that market If two successful trades or 4 tick loss? Is that possible ?

The best way would be to add a profit condition to your opening rules, you just need to know roughly how much a four tick loss will cost you based on the stakes your using
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If I use liability set to 70% that will place a bet on the lay side using say £70 of my 100 bank, this won't stop me matching the offset as have £30 available?

I'm not sure I understand this question, can you clarify?

[Atm1981]

Great thanks,

I want to use all my bank or as much of it on each trade.

[Atm1981]

Hi,

How do I get this file to look for bets 2 when the price is 2 ticks or less from the top and bottom of the range ?

When the price is 2 ticks away or less from the bottom or top , I then want to place a bet at the current best price when there less than £100 waiting as the current price.

For example horse at its bottom of its range at 3.85 , when the back amount at 3.90 is less than £100 I want to lay at current best price and do the opposite if at the top of range is this possible?

[Dallas]

Hi,

How do I get this file to look for bets 2 when the price is 2 ticks or less from the top and bottom of the range ?

When the price is 2 ticks away or less from the bottom or top , I then want to place a bet at the current best price when there less than £100 waiting as the current price.

For example horse at its bottom of its range at 3.85 , when the back amount at 3.90 is less than £100 I want to lay at current best price and do the opposite if at the top of range is this possible?

You'll need to add a further stored value condition to test the money waiting at the best lay price is < £100

The current Stored Value conditions that already look for the traded amount at the top and bottom of the range just need an adjustment of + or - 1 adding

[Atm1981]

Thank you again,

is there a way to identify the amount matched at back_price or laay_price instead of volume?example there might be 1000 matched at back_price but volume is only 400. i want to identify the 1000 matched.

[Dallas]

Thank you again,

is there a way to identify the amount matched at back_price or laay_price instead of volume?example there might be 1000 matched at back_price but volume is only 400. i want to identify the 1000 matched.

Do you mean the amount matched in a single bet/between refreshes?

[ubfxu]

Still a rank beginner finding my way around Bet Angel Automation, but just a technical question to ensure that I understand things correctly here.

From what I can gather the "Betfair Order" on UK Racing sorts the Selections in increasing order of the Back Price from lowest to highest.
On Australian Racing the "Betfair Order" is presented strictly by order of Saddlecloth Number, ie 1,2,3,4 etc.

In any case, wouldn't this bot need a "Fix the Order of the Market Selections" Rule Type to ensure that the Back and Lay Bets that are triggered up to 10 times apply to the same runner ?

The Back and Lay Rules are intended to start triggering on the first three in the betting, 5 minutes before the advertised Start TIme. Should those 3 Selections remain the same throughout the entire triggering process or does that not matter?

[Dallas]

Still a rank beginner finding my way around Bet Angel Automation, but just a technical question to ensure that I understand things correctly here.

From what I can gather the "Betfair Order" on UK Racing sorts the Selections in increasing order of the Back Price from lowest to highest.
On Australian Racing the "Betfair Order" is presented strictly by order of Saddlecloth Number, ie 1,2,3,4 etc.

In any case, wouldn't this bot need a "Fix the Order of the Market Selections" Rule Type to ensure that the Back and Lay Bets that are triggered up to 10 times apply to the same runner ?

The Back and Lay Rules are intended to start triggering on the first three in the betting, 5 minutes before the advertised Start TIme. Should those 3 Selections remain the same throughout the entire triggering process or does that not matter?

You could fix the order if you wanted but as the rules use offsetting closing a position even if it changed order or slipped out the top 3 after the opeing bet is placed isn't a problem.
The way its setp up in a competative market it could trigger on several different runners

[mtrehearn]

Thanks Dallas, another great bot example.

Is there a way to make this look at the short term changes range (the pink bars on the ladder) instead of an overall range? Or maybe even to consider has any volume being traded above the current price point in the last say 60 seconds?

Thanks.

[Dallas]

Thanks Dallas, another great bot example.

Is there a way to make this look at the short term changes range (the pink bars on the ladder) instead of an overall range? Or maybe even to consider has any volume being traded above the current price point in the last say 60 seconds?

Thanks.

Short answer is no, but what you could do though is maybe use rolling high/low traded prices which can be easily configured to cover any time you want and trigger bets if a new high/low price is set

and this example has a rules file which stores the rolling high/low during the last 30secs
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