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mcgoo
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PDC wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:17 am
mcgoo wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:34 am
I layd the 2nd fav as it looked to me to be on a drift...it moved against me by 3 ticks immediately. I hung in and managed to get out with one tick loss. I backed the fav and it shifted by 2 or 3 ticks and kept going so I bailed.
I think perhaps you chaps are just good at it :). I pick a direction and boom it moves 4 ticks the other way in seconds :shock: ..every single time it feels like..Even cross overs seem to hold no favour.It hasn't changed in years. I use $20 stakes and generally lose 70-90% of my scalping attempts.If I hadn't seen it myself I wouldn't have believed it.I seem to be (wrong) psychic :)
I look for ranges and more for trends now and that got me to break even.
Here are some thoughts on your post, bit slow replying as was having a break and then trying to reply between races:

You laid the 2nd fav and it shortened, so you then went and backed the fav. Think about that....they are the most likely linked runners, like a see saw if one goes down the other will (tend) go up. You tried to push down on both sides of the see saw and it snapped (you lost on both sides).

The 2nd fav shortened a bit as the fav was drifting. Your initial call was wrong, you should have been looking therefore for the fav to drift not shorten as well.

You are scalping, not swing trading, so when you call it wrong you need to be bailing your position quickly, not holding on hoping for it to come back. Bail, re-assess and go again. While you are waiting for the market to comeback you could be missing out on scalps. You called it wrong, get out, don't care about your ego being hurt because you called it wrong, it happens.

Don't pick a direction, let the market pick it for you. Sit and watch it and see what happens then fire. Or pop in some small stake orders and get a feel for it before putting in your proper sized orders.

Why are you using $20 stakes if you lose so much when scalping? All you are doing is making your losses bigger than they need to be and that will hurt and affect your mindset which will make you think more negatively about it going into the next and surprise surprise you lose again as you are going in expecting to lose.

Record your screen for the rest of Rosehill and watch it back when you have time, watch races multiple times until you understand what is happening and why.

Hope some of that helps, any other questions feel free to ask either here or on PM.
All good advice :) -amazing...I hadn't realised I had ignored the see saw which I watch for so closely in swing trading. I happened to record my last scalps at RH and made profit :) so will watch that back. Your points about staking and letting the market pick it for me have also cracked a shell in my rigid brain..I think...thank you again.I'll let you know if I have questions :geek:
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PDC wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:32 am
eightbo wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:30 am
Aaaaaaaaaaalmost a huge result at Rosehill, late lay-spike removed 50% of my profit. Nvm.
I was looking for it to break 3.0 but it bounced and took a nice chunk of green with it unfortunately. Would have been the result of the night for me had it broken. Given the backing I thought it was going to. Was again very scalpable on the way down.


Exited mostly around 3.05 but it felt so strong I continued to scalp w/ back bias and got multiple backs matched when the lay spike came in putting me on for a little too much size than I would like.

Commentator said last one moving forward so I hedged, only for the horse to rear up giving more time and the price came back in, nvm :roll:
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PDC wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:32 am
eightbo wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:30 am
Aaaaaaaaaaalmost a huge result at Rosehill, late lay-spike removed 50% of my profit. Nvm.
I was looking for it to break 3.0 but it bounced and took a nice chunk of green with it unfortunately. Would have been the result of the night for me had it broken. Given the backing I thought it was going to. Was again very scalpable on the way down.
I fancied a reversal but decided not to chance it, closed a minute or so before the off.
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Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:40 am
Commentator said last one moving forward so I hedged, only for the horse to rear up giving more time and the price came back in, nvm :roll:
I find it so annoying when the radio presenter says they are almost all loaded, so I exit my positions and then they cross to the track and only one has loaded! :roll:
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I'm calling it a night after the next and taking the afternoon off to enjoy the sunshine. :D

A couple of US races failed to go in-play and one took ages to void bets and settle so it looks quite ominous for a Saturday afternoon.
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PDC
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Enjoy the break!

I will be finishing early this afternoon to catch some of the sun and a BBQ. Don't get weather like this very often in the UK but there is always another market to trade next week and I don't need the money that much to sit in front of my desk cooking when I could be cooking outside for real :)

Just don't forget the sun cream!
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gnight D
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Enjoy chaps :D ..nearly beer o clock here too
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Sun's out already, just a shame we have to miss the morning to sleep.
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:51 am
I'm calling it a night after the next and taking the afternoon off to enjoy the sunshine. :D
Jockey Matt'y Bachelor is all set for the sun/hot weather: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAjZjPBD8i0

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eightbo wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:34 pm
Card at Sunshine Coast looks half decent tonight.

Going to make an effort to ease into the session this week.
Sunshine has been fairly disappointing so far on what has been a very good session. I was expecting it to have been better at Sunny.
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Naffman have you noticed a certain familiar theme? :lol:
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eightbo wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:30 am
Naffman have you noticed a certain familiar theme? :lol:
You mean favourites been backed?

If so I think its been more normal today :lol:
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mcgoo
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3 losses in last 3 markets I traded gave me profit back :evil: ..surprise surprise -50c down for the day after 20 markets..break-even shuffle 1.2.3 1.2.3 :lol:
off to open a beer.Ciao people. :geek:

Edit: Ok I came back for one more :D and got a nice 16 tick swing at Belmont to put me back in green.That beer tasting better :mrgreen:
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That was a brilliant session for me, I hope others found it as good. I wasn't really expecting much from it prior to starting given the lack of quality racing but it turned out to be one of the best Oz sessions I have had in some time. Hopefully it is the same for the next 7 weeks of the lower quality racing but I won't hold my breath. I suspect normal service will be resumed next week when there is no Group racing on at all and Randwick replaces Rosehill.
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