Today's Horse Racing

[Derek27]

I heard one or two bookies say they were happy to pay out Detorri's magnificent 7 accumulators and took their losses on the chin, but the bigger firms seem to suffer from loss aversion more than a newbie trader!

[PDC]

Coral Eclipse day though innit - poor form from Coral but I expect no less

Creates a bit of buzz around it which draws in more people. Clever marketing imo.

[Dallas]

Enjoyed the Eclipse, might have done a little better if I didn't have half an eye on a tennis match on my other screen

Hopefully those paying full attention did well

[PDC]

Enjoyed the Eclipse, might have done a little better if I didn't have half an eye on a tennis match on my other screen

Hopefully those paying full attention did well

Something I find interesting is how the market no longer reacts to horses playing up like it used to imo. There was a good example with Regal Reality who despite not wanting to go down to the start at all did not drift, in fact as they showed it it actually shortened a few ticks but largely held steady.

The horse had already drifted prior to this.

It seems to happen a lot these days where horses shorten more than drift when they play up which doesn't make sense to me.

[PDC]

BF cocked up the 1545 at Beverly turning it inplay way too early, seemingly when Leicester went off. Some of the SP's that were settled several minutes early were nothing like the off prices.

Winners SP was 4.5 when it was about 3.2 at the off and 2-1 with the bookies - ouch!

[ruthlessimon]

Noobie question; but it's buggin' me

What's the definition of a "Stks" race? Is it a type of Hcap?

[wearthefoxhat]

Given it's the 'Coral' Eclipse, this is terrible: -

https://www.racingpost.com/news/saturda ... _term=Null

Can't happen now as he lost in the first but the SP only applied to his last two rides neither of which were the Coral Eclipse.

Also I think it would have been great and not terrible as had it happened the bookies would be doing all they could to force down the SP.

Coral Eclipse day though innit - poor form from Coral but I expect no less

The bookies will have to start thinking about how they move forward now that the £2 max FOBT is biting hard. The recent William Hill announcement of the layoffs/shop closures suggests they need to promote horse racing and other sports more than they have been doing. (just sitting back and allowing the FOBT millions to roll in)

The Coral-Dettori/liability story ain't gonna cut it, that's for sure.

[PDC]

BF cocked up the 1545 at Beverly turning it inplay way too early, seemingly when Leicester went off. Some of the SP's that were settled several minutes early were nothing like the off prices.

Winners SP was 4.5 when it was about 3.2 at the off and 2-1 with the bookies - ouch!

They have done it again with the 1610 at Sandown! FFS

[wearthefoxhat]

Noobie question; but it's buggin' me

What's the definition of a "Stks" race? Is it a type of Hcap?

Thinks it relates to how the prize money is collected for each race. (entry fees+sponsors+any other) ie; Handicap Stakes, Novice Stakes, Maiden Stakes etc..

[Euler]

BF cocked up the 1545 at Beverly turning it inplay way too early, seemingly when Leicester went off. Some of the SP's that were settled several minutes early were nothing like the off prices.

Winners SP was 4.5 when it was about 3.2 at the off and 2-1 with the bookies - ouch!

I missed that. Pretty sure I traded it but may have been away from my desk, else I'm sure I would have noticed.

[Dallas]

Fully focused on racing for the last hour, someone seems keen to get 20K on the 16:45 fav

[Dallas]

Another late slug at 2s and even left it in-play for several seconds at 1.98

[ruthlessimon]

Noobie question; but it's buggin' me

What's the definition of a "Stks" race? Is it a type of Hcap?

Thinks it relates to how the prize money is collected for each race. (entry fees+sponsors+any other) ie; Handicap Stakes, Novice Stakes, Maiden Stakes etc..

Appreciated Fox. Yah, that's what confused me. Most races have "_____ Stks"; yet quite a few are just "Stks", maybe it's lazy Bf!!

[Derek27]

Noobie question; but it's buggin' me

What's the definition of a "Stks" race? Is it a type of Hcap?

I think the origin of the term going back centuries refers to money provided by all the owners to enter their horses, which goes to the winning owner. These days it just refers to high-class non-handicaps such as group or listed races, pattern races, condition races, etc.

[weemac]

Noobie question; but it's buggin' me

What's the definition of a "Stks" race? Is it a type of Hcap?

Thinks it relates to how the prize money is collected for each race. (entry fees+sponsors+any other) ie; Handicap Stakes, Novice Stakes, Maiden Stakes etc..

Appreciated Fox. Yah, that's what confused me. Most races have "_____ Stks"; yet quite a few are just "Stks", maybe it's lazy Bf!!

When BF do that it usually refers to flat (not jumps) claiming and selling races. I suspect it isn't laziness; rather it's further demonstration of their ignorance of the product they deal in. Actually, all races are stakes races as stated above; it's just that handicaps aren't usually referred to in that manner. But it does happen occasionally.