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Hooch
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Dose anybody know what the deduction factor was on Betfair for the 8.20 Windsor?
Dipstick
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The Racing Post says that it was 30p in the £ - i assume that BF follows that

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Hooch
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Dipstick wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:01 am
The Racing Post says that it was 30p in the £ - i assume that BF follows that

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Rule 4 and deduction/reduction factor would be slightly different.
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ANGELS15
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Dipstick wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:01 am
The Racing Post says that it was 30p in the £ - i assume that BF follows that

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Not precisely, Betfair take their deduction out of your whole return including your stake. I recall a race many years ago where there were 2 very short priced favourites something like evs and 11/10 with a big gap to the others. I had £50 on one of the favourites on betfair. One of them was withdrawn just before the race resulting in a near 50% rule 4 with ordinary bookmakers meaning If I had had my bet with them I would still have been returned £75. As it was with Betfair as their reduction applies to the whole return including the stake it actually wiped out my whole profit.
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ANGELS15
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Dipstick wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:01 am
The Racing Post says that it was 30p in the £ - i assume that BF follows that

D
Not precisely, Betfair take their deduction out of your whole return including your stake. I recall a race many years ago where there were 2 very short priced favourites something like evs and 11/10 with a big gap to the others. I had £50 on one of the favourites on betfair. One of them was withdrawn just before the race resulting in a near 50% rule 4 with ordinary bookmakers meaning If I had had my bet with them I would still have been returned £75. As it was with Betfair as their reduction applies to the whole return including the stake it actually wiped out my whole profit.
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ANGELS15
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TBH most people would be unaware of this unless you bet in a scenario similar to the above with a favourite and 2nd favourite fairly short with a big gap to the others. Most people are going to get much better odds backing prices above 4/1 so may not notice it when it happens.
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Bog
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Hi. I trded 8.20 Windsor race but I don't have the result in P&L statement page. Balance was updated since last night, but the race it's not there. It's first time when I see that. I don't know if it's an error...

Can someone confirm if it's the same? Thanks
sa7med
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Bog wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:16 pm
Hi. I trded 8.20 Windsor race but I don't have the result in P&L statement page. Balance was updated since last night, but the race it's not there. It's first time when I see that. I don't know if it's an error...

Can someone confirm if it's the same? Thanks
maybe your horse was withdrawn as a nonrunner?
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Bog
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I traded multiple horses, betfair updated my balance with the winnings from the race, but the result it's not in P&L. Strange. I could contact them, I just wanted to see if anybody here with same issue.

@sa7med, you traded the race?
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Euler
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Plenty of money on the Oisin Murphy runners today.
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Headless Chuck
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Hi, first post!

Absolute horror show today; more than once had to bail on what looked like an irredeemable drift, only for it to reverse and spike back through the original position just before the off.

I think the expression is "character building"....
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Dallas
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The whole of this afternoons races will be handed over to the bots
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ShaunWhite
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Dallas wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:19 pm
The whole of this afternoons races will be handed over to the bots
The best perk of working for yourself is the freedom to have ad hoc days off.

It's the little something that makes up for not having a non-contributary pension, free private health care, nice company car, big xmas bonus, long expense account lunches, or paid sick leave and 6 weeks paid holiday...etc etc etc etc. :)
BrianDee
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:24 pm
The best perk of working for yourself is the freedom to have ad hoc days off.
And this attracts no income tax or VAT :)
Think theres a song there somewhere???

PS
Lingfield about 5 minutes behind
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Derek27
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:24 pm
Dallas wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:19 pm
The whole of this afternoons races will be handed over to the bots
The best perk of working for yourself is the freedom to have ad hoc days off.

It's the little something that makes up for not having a non-contributary pension, free private health care, nice company car, big xmas bonus, long expense account lunches, or paid sick leave and 6 weeks paid holiday...etc etc etc etc. :)
Don't you pay yourself a performance-related bonus?

I don't care what my bonus amounts to, I just like the idea of having a bonus. :D
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