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Kafkaesque
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Whoever's in charge of football-related decisions at Watford need their head(s) examined
Agreed. A bizarre decision. Unless they know he'd been touched up, so they took the initiative. Prospective next manager? There's a lot out there unemployed. Allardyce? Pardew?Kafkaesque wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:55 pmWhoever's in charge of football-related decisions at Watford need their head(s) examined
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Kafkaesque
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By which club though? There's no chance that's the case, simply because no other club is dumb enough to change manager four matches into the season!greenmark wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:56 pmAgreed. A bizarre decision. Unless they know he'd been touched up, so they took the initiative. Prospective next manager? There's a lot out there unemployed. Allardyce? Pardew?Kafkaesque wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:55 pmWhoever's in charge of football-related decisions at Watford need their head(s) examined
Just did a check - because I was so shocked by this one. Sacked four matches into a season.....9 months after signing an extention to his contract......the season after their highest league position in 22 years and first FA Cup final, any domestic cup final in fact, for 25 years in the same season. Plus, the numbers aren't out yet from last season afaik but iirc 17/18 they were 16-17th-ish in wages.
Simply baffling and somebody needs to stop messing with puff the magic dragon, if they're expecting better than 11th and a final.
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Kafkaesque
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Come on now, Kai, I've come to expect better from you
If that's the case, the Watford lads can go ahead and cancel the head exams - they've categorically lost the plot.Form tables across the back end of a season and the start of new one are for the Souness' and Danny Murphy's of this World. At best they're starting points from which to derive something from many other factors.
Using color schemes to show top 4 "form" and relegation "form", with 14 teams in 20 team league! That just makes it plain as day that it's an agenda, see what I can "prove" more than a serious attempt at any sort of analysis.
Haha, I wasn't agreeing with their decision to sack him, I was merely suggesting that this is probably the reason on why they've come to this decision, sometimes it's as simple as that, the fact that they carried over their relegation form into a new season was probably what worried their owner Pozzo (who is a very ambitious businessman with a perfectionist reputation).
Not trying to be a contrarian, I actually agree with you that it is an appalling decision, I almost never like to see managers lose their jobs, many owners are quick to pull the trigger because there is too much at stake so I've grown accustomed to it. But in Watford's case, not really sure how you can be surprised by this decision since Pozzo has already changed like 10 managers in the past 7 years or so, whatever his reasoning may be it seems to be working by pushing Watford to new heights (like the FA cup final months ago). He's done a similar job with Granada by promoting them from the 3rd tier (iirc) to La Liga.
Can only speculate at this point but if he thinks that Gracia has done all that he can with this team then he's maybe looking to replace him sooner rather than later with someone who can continue building on their recent success, just seems a bit weird that this man is (yet again) Flores. However, I think that the gap between the top 6 and the rest of the league is too wide for them to close but wtf do I know
Definitely not the first time you've seen a weird manager sacking and you'll see a lot more, it's often seen as a quick fix to restart the season. Just hope wanting more doesn't backfire for Watford, like it did with Stoke when they decided to replace Tony Pulis with Mark Hughes and use his Barcelona connections to try and create what fans were calling "Stokecelona", by going from one extreme playstyle to another. And where are they now? Finishing in the bottom half of the Championship. In any case those are tricky decisions for mid level clubs, I would not want to be making them, deciding on whether you're happy with what you have and what you've achieved or whether you want more than that.
Not trying to be a contrarian, I actually agree with you that it is an appalling decision, I almost never like to see managers lose their jobs, many owners are quick to pull the trigger because there is too much at stake so I've grown accustomed to it. But in Watford's case, not really sure how you can be surprised by this decision since Pozzo has already changed like 10 managers in the past 7 years or so, whatever his reasoning may be it seems to be working by pushing Watford to new heights (like the FA cup final months ago). He's done a similar job with Granada by promoting them from the 3rd tier (iirc) to La Liga.
Can only speculate at this point but if he thinks that Gracia has done all that he can with this team then he's maybe looking to replace him sooner rather than later with someone who can continue building on their recent success, just seems a bit weird that this man is (yet again) Flores. However, I think that the gap between the top 6 and the rest of the league is too wide for them to close but wtf do I know
Definitely not the first time you've seen a weird manager sacking and you'll see a lot more, it's often seen as a quick fix to restart the season. Just hope wanting more doesn't backfire for Watford, like it did with Stoke when they decided to replace Tony Pulis with Mark Hughes and use his Barcelona connections to try and create what fans were calling "Stokecelona", by going from one extreme playstyle to another. And where are they now? Finishing in the bottom half of the Championship. In any case those are tricky decisions for mid level clubs, I would not want to be making them, deciding on whether you're happy with what you have and what you've achieved or whether you want more than that.
