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wearthefoxhat
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Euler wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:18 pm
Betfair have forgotten to turn the Barcelona match inplay, remarkable.

It's effectively inplay with no delay.
On a side note, Barcelona are struggling without a fully fit Messi.
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Kai
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:34 am
Euler wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:18 pm
Betfair have forgotten to turn the Barcelona match inplay, remarkable.

It's effectively inplay with no delay.
On a side note, Barcelona are struggling without a fully fit Messi.
Not much of a surprise there, their away results in particular have been horrific. Some players are irreplaceable, Spurs still haven't won a league game away from home since January, ever since Kane got injured back then.
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Euler wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:18 pm
Betfair have forgotten to turn the Barcelona match inplay, remarkable.

It's effectively inplay with no delay.
Happens all the time, and increasingly so. Although this is this is, afaik, a first for a match this high profile.

FYI, should this trend continue, then BF's rules state that anything unmatched from pre-kickoff WILL be VALID even if is matched after kickoff as long as they turn it inplay at any point later in the match and it's before the first significant event (ie. goal or red card), even though it would have been cancelled if they had turned it inplay at the correct time. Anything after first significant event is void, even bets put in after the fact. I wasn't around for the above one, but if it remained the case after the first goal, it wasn't inplay with no delay at that point. Everything was void....costing BF a fair chunk.

I've made the point on more than one occassion that this rule set is plain wrong and arbitrary. At least anything unmatched not cancelled due to their error should be void. You're left in an impossible situation as a trader, if you find out five minutes in that a bet meant to cancel has been matched after kickoff, because you cannot trade out, ie. your blind to whether it'll stand or be void because you're at the mercy of whether BF turns it inplay later.
CallumPerry
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Would be interesting if they allowed some of the footy matches to go in-play without a delay intentionally, I think there's room for unmonitored live markets. Chancing on VAR and such. I assume speed would become a necessity though.
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CallumPerry wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:29 am
Would be interesting if they allowed some of the footy matches to go in-play without a delay intentionally, I think there's room for unmonitored live markets. Chancing on VAR and such. I assume speed would become a necessity though.
Hey Callum, you a Wolves fan by any chance? Any views on them this season, think they are finding the going tough.
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stueytrader wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:34 pm
CallumPerry wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:29 am
Would be interesting if they allowed some of the footy matches to go in-play without a delay intentionally, I think there's room for unmonitored live markets. Chancing on VAR and such. I assume speed would become a necessity though.
Hey Callum, you a Wolves fan by any chance? Any views on them this season, think they are finding the going tough.
It doesnt look good for them, already played a lot of games, congested fixture list coming up too and a small squad
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Arsenal game didn't even unsuspend after the penalty (59') before Aston Villa scored their 2nd goal (60').....

Very poor on Betfair's part......they need to, at the very least, 'unsuspend' on resumption of play, otherwise they can be seen to be cheating their customers.
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Yes I am. Seen some awful football over the years and last year we've had the best season I have ever seen. This year however, we already look tired to be honest. Some of our key players haven't hit the ground running and the depth of the squad is indeed being tested. Not only that, when the non-first-teamers don't start we look awful. They usually come on late when we're one behind recently and, I don't know. I am incredibly tired.

I swam the 2 mile serpentine in Hyde park yesterday for Children with Cancer and I have just got back to Wolvo from London after watching a thrilling 1-1 draw today at Palace. It actually was thrilling :lol: nothing quite like a last minute equaliser but yes, we're not doing as incredibly as last season yet - I hope we grow into the season and I'm off to bed. Emotionally, physically and spiritually shattered :lol:
stueytrader
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Cheers Naffman and Callum.

Hate to say this (as you're a fan) but I've actually got a little relegation position running on your guys from pre-season. I was wondering whether to cash any in or let it run - they have an easier fixture next (Watford) but some tricky times also ahead, so may let it run.

Very well done on your own achievements Callum, top stuff. 8-)
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I think we are tired so personally I would hold the trade. Can't see up getting much against Watford (bogey team of late) and then we have City. I would then close the trade after we play Arsenal (2nd November) as we have Villa at home, Bournemouth, Sheff Utd, West Ham, Brighton. I'd expect we start picking up points there so you'd come out with a nice profit before that stage.

Can always back us to struggle again in mid-December as we have Spurs, City (again) and Liverpool all before new year. A little two/three week window again would probably make you some profit unless we pull out some shock results. Leverage your risk and all that. I just don't know when/how we'll get fresh legs back to compete with the big boys, maybe in that spell of 'easier' opponents. Got Southhampton in just under a month's time ;)
stueytrader
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Cheers Callum, kind of similar to what I was thinking must admit. If they struggle against Watford that will really be a bad one. The easier run (as you list) also has some euro games though, which might even make that tricky again.

It's a difficult year like you say with that squad/depth. Getting bundled out of the EL would prob do you a favour.
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For all the Lay The Draw players, here's an interesting fact about the Turkish Super Lig: in the last month or so, 51% of matches ended in a draw (39% this season against an average of around 25% in recent seasons).

There are 4 matches today in said league, one is actually live now (Konyaspor v Kayserispor 1-1 HT).
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Some move for a game with 5 goals.
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Euler
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Thought Spurs may struggle, but 2-7 is pretty humiliating.
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Euler
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Zero shots on target for Man United this evening. Only 5 wins in 22 matches none in the last 10 away.
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