hmmm - maybe you'll have to watch to find that out. what is unique to me may not be unique to you!
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I will try and find time. If they were English I would listen whilst I was trading a match but as they are not in English I am struggling to find the time.
In a previous reply Shaun White says "Nobody starts by being profitable." I'm not sure what he is getting at by saying this.
In a previous reply Shaun White says "Nobody starts by being profitable." I'm not sure what he is getting at by saying this.
I'm going to be VERY unfair here and offer a little piece of advice, based on how you've progressed over the past week.
You have asked lots of good questions and had tremendious responses which pointed the way to go with your research. However, what you seem to be doing with that advice is either ignoring it if the result of following it seems too hard, or, you lose interest in a particular avenue and then kick off a new thread, leaving the previous ones abandoned,
You need to perhaps offer up insights as to what you've discovered (other than simply saying something like *my gut knew there would be a goal*, you could do some post match post mortum and share what you discovered to see if it tallied with others experiences -i.e. you may notice that after 80 minutes, the ou25 market gets busted etc and on favourable odds -etc).
anyway - that said, it is entertaining
You have asked lots of good questions and had tremendious responses which pointed the way to go with your research. However, what you seem to be doing with that advice is either ignoring it if the result of following it seems too hard, or, you lose interest in a particular avenue and then kick off a new thread, leaving the previous ones abandoned,
You need to perhaps offer up insights as to what you've discovered (other than simply saying something like *my gut knew there would be a goal*, you could do some post match post mortum and share what you discovered to see if it tallied with others experiences -i.e. you may notice that after 80 minutes, the ou25 market gets busted etc and on favourable odds -etc).
anyway - that said, it is entertaining

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Hi,
The only actionable advice I have been given is to watch Paulo Rebelo's videos which I did try but they are not in English.
I have got a lot of information by starting this threads for example the one about the website that someone was previously a member of . Very insightful.
The only actionable advice I have been given is to watch Paulo Rebelo's videos which I did try but they are not in English.
I have got a lot of information by starting this threads for example the one about the website that someone was previously a member of . Very insightful.
If Paulo Rebelo is not unique then I don't know who is honestly, if you find a Youtube trader that can produce a better result than 170k on one match please let me know, I am dead seriousJustLukeYou wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:07 pmI will try Paulo Rebelo channel again but I have watched around 50 videos on football trading so I wasn't sure he would have something unique to say and considering it is not in English I didn't want to commit to much time to it.
What unique points does he raise?


The language barrier is not a real barrier, it's very easy to use it as an excuse, you don't see me using it as an excuse. English subtitles on his playlist that I linked earlier are accurate, they're not garbage auto translations, his team translated the vids properly. If you're asking someone to explain his vids in detail so that you don't have to go through the effort, that's yet again taking the easy road, if you're not prepared to go the extra mile you won't get very far with trading.
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Yeah that is some serious money!
I will try his videos. One thing that puzzles me also is that I have watched almost all of BetAngel's football trading videos but he never discusses research but another popular YouTuber says that pre-match research is essential. It is all these differences that I am trying to work my way through.
I watched another video who says he used SofaScore and finds it incredibly useful where as no one else has discussed using in game stats to that degree.
I will try his videos. One thing that puzzles me also is that I have watched almost all of BetAngel's football trading videos but he never discusses research but another popular YouTuber says that pre-match research is essential. It is all these differences that I am trying to work my way through.
I watched another video who says he used SofaScore and finds it incredibly useful where as no one else has discussed using in game stats to that degree.
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I just watched one video as it half time in the match I am following. He talks about finding value in U/O 2.5 goals which was very interesting but then he places he bets on Bet365. Does anyone know why this is please?
Could you not just email him and ask him to learn English?JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:07 pm...and considering it is not in English I didn't want to commit to much time to it.
If you're unable to read subtitles what use would it be for somebody on this forum to type them out for you?

i nearly spat out my (virtual) coffee there -Derek27 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:07 pmCould you not just email him and ask him to learn English?JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:07 pm...and considering it is not in English I didn't want to commit to much time to it.

If you're not prepared to make an effort and find the time you may as well give up - it's like not having the time to learn to fly an aircraft because you're too busy flying it!! I don't trade football so haven't watched the videos but this guy manages to find the time to make videos to help other people and you can't find the time to watch them!JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:13 pmI will try and find time. If they were English I would listen whilst I was trading a match but as they are not in English I am struggling to find the time.
In a previous reply Shaun White says "Nobody starts by being profitable." I'm not sure what he is getting at by saying this.
I think Shaun meant exactly what he said, nobody's profitable from the very start. Your question was has any profitable trader started off unprofitable. Shaun's saying every profitable trader started of unprofitable because nobody is profitable from the start. Does that make it any clearer or am I just confusing the issue further?
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You can't do two things at the same time and do both things properly. This a big sign that you are not being serious.
You said, "Has anyone gone from making a loss as a football trader to becoming profitable? "JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:13 pm"Nobody starts by being profitable." I'm not sure what he is getting at by saying this.
And I mean, everyone who is profitable started by making a loss. So the answer to your question is yes.
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Hi,Derek27 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:20 pmIf you're not prepared to make an effort and find the time you may as well give up - it's like not having the time to learn to fly an aircraft because you're too busy flying it!! I don't trade football so haven't watched the videos but this guy manages to find the time to make videos to help other people and you can't find the time to watch them!JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:13 pmI will try and find time. If they were English I would listen whilst I was trading a match but as they are not in English I am struggling to find the time.
In a previous reply Shaun White says "Nobody starts by being profitable." I'm not sure what he is getting at by saying this.
I think Shaun meant exactly what he said, nobody's profitable from the very start. Your question was has any profitable trader started off unprofitable. Shaun's saying every profitable trader started of unprofitable because nobody is profitable from the start. Does that make it any clearer or am I just confusing the issue further?
I have said I have watched 50 videos. Is that not an effort.
The thing I am confused by is that I am profitable so far and there must be others that made a profit from the start. There are also no real tips on how to become profitable.
i'm NEVER going to be able to finish this (virtual) coffeeJustLukeYou wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 pmI have said I have watched 50 videos. Is that not an effort.

I sometimes watch videos just before I go to bed but nobody would say I've made an effort - if I watched 50 of them people would call me a pervert.JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 pmHi,Derek27 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:20 pmIf you're not prepared to make an effort and find the time you may as well give up - it's like not having the time to learn to fly an aircraft because you're too busy flying it!! I don't trade football so haven't watched the videos but this guy manages to find the time to make videos to help other people and you can't find the time to watch them!JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:13 pmI will try and find time. If they were English I would listen whilst I was trading a match but as they are not in English I am struggling to find the time.
In a previous reply Shaun White says "Nobody starts by being profitable." I'm not sure what he is getting at by saying this.
I think Shaun meant exactly what he said, nobody's profitable from the very start. Your question was has any profitable trader started off unprofitable. Shaun's saying every profitable trader started of unprofitable because nobody is profitable from the start. Does that make it any clearer or am I just confusing the issue further?
I have said I have watched 50 videos. Is that not an effort.
The thing I am confused by is that I am profitable so far and there must be others that made a profit from the start. There are also no real tips on how to become profitable.

There's not much point in watching a video if you're not prepared to read the subtitles and make an effort to understand them.
What really confuses me is that you're one of the few traders that's profitable from the start but ask to hear from traders that were unprofitable from the start and how they turned it around, and want tips on how to become profitable when you're already profitable!!
You also started a thread on if it's possible for you to be a savant and still lose!! And you think you're confused!
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I just made another profit. From doing some research and watching the match I backed Albacete to win but also backed 0-0 as the game was going slow. But Albacete scored. Bet 28p for 38p backed and I was very confident. But now it is that left me in a position where I don't know what to do.
I did my research before the game. I don't want to place a random trade and lose the profit I made. I also don't know if I maximised my profit. For example I could have put a little bit on Albacete to win 1-0 and made a higher percentage profit margin. All these things I am trying fast track to learn.
I am doing well but I need a mentor. The international break was a bit of a disruption but I am learning what to look for hopefully. For example Oviedo were favourites before the match but I couldn't see how that was possible. I find confusing how they were favourites.
I did my research before the game. I don't want to place a random trade and lose the profit I made. I also don't know if I maximised my profit. For example I could have put a little bit on Albacete to win 1-0 and made a higher percentage profit margin. All these things I am trying fast track to learn.
I am doing well but I need a mentor. The international break was a bit of a disruption but I am learning what to look for hopefully. For example Oviedo were favourites before the match but I couldn't see how that was possible. I find confusing how they were favourites.